Gas May Soon Cost $7 and $10 a gallon...

[dreamgirl]

I completely disagree with the government saying that the families that make over $100K are rich. What a load of crap! My hubby and I make that and we still budget our money. I don't own extravagant clothes or jewelry. I drive a nice car, but it's not a Mercedes or BMW or anything close to that. I don't for one second consider myself "rich" or in the upper class.

I hate the take from the "rich" and give to the "middle class" political mentality. Why should I have to fund someone elses being? We both work hard for every penny we have.

The other thing that needs to be changed is tax brackets. Seeing that any american who pulls in $500K a year is taxed EQUALLY to like a LeBron James who pulls in $30M a year is CRAZY.... or like a Tiger Woods or a Bill Gates. Think of that.

As for gas prices, eventually they have to hit a ceiling because once everyone stops being able to afford it, the demand will completely fall and the majority of consumers won't be driving like they were and will be buying a lot less. Today we were at $3.93 here in Cleveland.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

you wont even get that if you try to sell it. do it now while it still has some value to it. gas prices will continue to rise and your trucks value will drop faster then ever. you are in a now or never situation. the longer you keep the truck the bigger the problem you have.

That's EXACTLY what we are thankful for. Had we waited just 3 weeks to sell the diesel, we wouldn't have even gotten anywhere close to what was owed.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by dreamgirl

I completely disagree with the government saying that the families that make over $100K are rich. What a load of crap! My hubby and I make that and we still budget our money. I don't own extravagant clothes or jewelry. I drive a nice car, but it's not a Mercedes or BMW or anything close to that. I don't for one second consider myself "rich" or in the upper class.

I hate the take from the "rich" and give to the "middle class" political mentality. Why should I have to fund someone elses being? We both work hard for every penny we have.

The other thing that needs to be changed is tax brackets. Seeing that any american who pulls in $500K a year is taxed EQUALLY to like a LeBron James who pulls in $30M a year is CRAZY.... or like a Tiger Woods or a Bill Gates. Think of that.

As for gas prices, eventually they have to hit a ceiling because once everyone stops being able to afford it, the demand will completely fall and the majority of consumers won't be driving like they were and will be buying a lot less. Today we were at $3.93 here in Cleveland.

Before everyone gets their posses together- read his proposal. His "tax breaks" will be for the true middle class- those earning $75k or less. There would be $1000 tax break at the end of the year for these people. Secondly- his tax would basically raise the SOCIAL SECURITY tax bracket from the current $97,500 PER PERSON to $102, 000. That's a whopping $5k. So, utimately you will have to make over $200K for you to really see an impact.

But, what people aren't saying here is why he proposes to raise the Social Security tax bracket- If he doesn't- Social Security will have run out by 2017. So, all the money WE have put into Social Security all these years- we won't see a penny of it when it's time for us to retire.

And, I agree that the rich shouldn't have to give to the middle class, or poor. But, that's really not what's happening here. What you are angry about- Lebron James & like a principal of a school paying the same amount of taxes- is what he's trying to eliminate.

[toolwtf]

Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

what a bunch of fucking bullshit. if you combine all the current taxes we are taxed at about %60 of our income fuckhead. how much more are you going to squeeze out of the middle class? the government is terrible at spending money they abuse the fuck out of it. how can you have a problem with Iraq and not all the other government waste - entitlement programs (only about %30 of the money for welware actually goes to the individual), buerocrats, government salaries, size of government. NASA had a billion dollar project where they collided a rocket with a meteor. it was fucking cool buy you cant say ones a waste and another isnt. we had a trillion dollar defict since as long as i can remember before both bush or clinton.

please do us all a favor and never talk about politics again... YOU IDIOT!

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

Before everyone gets their posses together- read his proposal. His "tax breaks" will be for the true middle class- those earning $75k or less. There would be $1000 tax break at the end of the year for these people. Secondly- his tax would basically raise the SOCIAL SECURITY tax bracket from the current $97,500 PER PERSON to $102, 000. That's a whopping $5k. So, utimately you will have to make over $200K for you to really see an impact.

But, what people aren't saying here is why he proposes to raise the Social Security tax bracket- If he doesn't- Social Security will have run out by 2017. So, all the money WE have put into Social Security all these years- we won't see a penny of it when it's time for us to retire.

And, I agree that the rich shouldn't have to give to the middle class, or poor. But, that's really not what's happening here. What you are angry about- Lebron James & like a principal of a school paying the same amount of taxes- is what he's trying to eliminate.

Am I understanding this right? Is it just me or does a $1000 tax break just seem like a mockery. I make less than 50k and that wouldn't do shit to improve my life. How would someone making 75k+ going to be impressed by this? Take that 1k from everyone and do something good for the country and I think it would make a much bigger difference in everyone's life.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by toolwtf

please do us all a favor and never talk about politics again... YOU IDIOT!

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Am I understanding this right? Is it just me or does a $1000 tax break just seem like a mockery. I make less than 50k and that wouldn't do shit to improve my life. How would someone making 75k+ going to be impressed by this? Take that 1k from everyone and do something good for the country and I think it would make a much bigger difference in everyone's life.

I'm not sure I understand your question. The $1000 tax break would mean you pay taxes on $1000 less, which would hopefully yield a little bit higher of a tax return. This would be in addition to the standardized deduction amount, if that's what you take. People who make over $75k aren't supposed to be impressed but this- I'm not following you here. The increase in the Social Security tax for people who make over the $75k is going to be used to help people continue to receive it. Otherwise it's going to run out in 2017. So, what Obama is trying to do is impose a little bit higher tax for those who can afford it in order to keep Social Security alive. I'm not saying I'm a supporter of this idea, but I do see how it can do some thing good for the country. Maybe give people al ittle more money back on their return, and allow Social Security to keep paying it's recipients.

[THE BOUNCER]

people are protesting in Europe.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Europe fuel protests spread wider

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

people are protesting in Europe.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Europe fuel protests spread wider

GOOD!!! At least people are startinng to wake up and get smart about the whole thing!

The fact that we allow our governments to allow these huge oil companies to get away with this is sickening. And, until more people continue to protest, it's not going to change much.

I didn't live in the 60's, but I do know the 60's represented a revolution. It's time to go back to those principles again- it's time to take the control back of our government from big business & big brother. We have let this go on for too long.

[THE BOUNCER]

hey red, i think you should say the words "sickening" and "disgusting" a few more times to your posts. it really ads a nice visual.

[NYCmitch25]

Originally Posted by toolwtf

please do us all a favor and never talk about politics again... YOU IDIOT!

go fuck yourself motherfucker. why do you do us a favor any swallow a shotgun barrell faggot.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

go fuck yourself motherfucker. why do you do us a favor any swallow a shotgun barrell faggot.

no fuck you faggot fuck motherfucking faggot fuck fuck fuck fuck.

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

I'm not sure I understand your question. The $1000 tax break would mean you pay taxes on $1000 less, which would hopefully yield a little bit higher of a tax return. This would be in addition to the standardized deduction amount, if that's what you take. People who make over $75k aren't supposed to be impressed but this- I'm not following you here. The increase in the Social Security tax for people who make over the $75k is going to be used to help people continue to receive it. Otherwise it's going to run out in 2017. So, what Obama is trying to do is impose a little bit higher tax for those who can afford it in order to keep Social Security alive. I'm not saying I'm a supporter of this idea, but I do see how it can do some thing good for the country. Maybe give people al ittle more money back on their return, and allow Social Security to keep paying it's recipients.

I guess I confused you since I am confused. What I am asking is if they are giving these people an insignificant tax break, what is the point other than mocking their intelligence. As if the politicians think the 75k+ people are to stupid to realize the tax break really won't make a difference but they will like the way it sounds. On the other hand if the government kept the money and did something productive with it ( I know this is a long shot) then the 75k+ people and the rest of the country will benefit more.

[toolwtf]

Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

go fuck yourself motherfucker. why do you do us a favor any swallow a shotgun barrell faggot.

How abot you SWALLOW MY COCK! YOU FOCKING IDIOT!

[NYCmitch25]

do you feel better now? it bet you'd like that queer. why don't you go back to mashing your boyfriends face the pillows on your couch and leave the politics to the adults

why dont your respond to my original post if you disagree instead wasting all of our time with this. you got nothing

[NYCmitch25]

Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

do you feel better now? it bet you'd like that queer

why dont your respond to my original post if you disagree instead wasting all our time with this. you got nothing

YOU IDIOT


you dont need to reply.

[Shibby]

Both of you need to find more intelligent ways of expressing yourself or shut the hell up.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Both of you need to find more intelligent ways of expressing yourself or shut the hell up.

lol. how about you SUCK MY COCK IDIOT! then put a gun barrel up your ASS!

[THE BOUNCER]

Oil Prices Jump $6, Sending Stocks Down Sharply

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/bu...hp&oref=slogin

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

Oil Prices Jump $6, Sending Stocks Down Sharply

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/bu...hp&oref=slogin

This is my favorite part:

"The spike came despite no specific disruption in the oil market, suggesting that the move was based on speculation"

Just pisses me off. We can no longer continue to allow our government to sit back and make us look like idiots. They are doing this right in front of our faces, and we just watch.

Let's raise prices on "speculation". Unbelievable. No shortages, no surge in demand....

The even funnier part about this, is Asia, and other surrounding countries are building coal & nuclear plants to help with their own energy crisis. So, this is just another BS reason for investors to cash in. Their demand hasn't increased because they are finding ALTERNATIVES.

Why every other country in the world has started production of such alternatives, and we haven't is simply beyond me