What are your thoughts on this?

[jwoody]

Curious as to what you guys think about this. I am no physicists, so I haven't a clue.

Legal bid to stop CERN atom smasher from 'destroying the world' - Telegraph

[The_Grinder]

I'm not smart enough to understand how dangerous these experiments are. It does however concern me that one of the scientists defending the experiments said something to the effect of, "there is LITTLE chance of creating earth eating black holes". Little chance wtf??? If there is any chance at all, those motherfuckers better stop!

I do believe that when human existance comes to an end, it will be because of our advanced technology. I just hope I'm gone before it happens.

[Nekrawulf]

Will the LHC destroy the world?

Probly not....


Remember that humans are terrified of new technology, it literally scares the begeezus out of them.

Heard of the world is flat syndrome? aka if we sail too far we will fall off the earth?

Remember similar scares when we detonated the first nuclear bomb?

How about when we broke the sound barrier?



Granted we know very little about black holes, antimatter and even quantum physics in general... so how can we scientifically say that this experiment will be dangerous when it is an exploration into the very things we know little about, and most likely will garner a minute amount of comprehension into these most aliens of topics.

I say lets crank the puppy up and see what happens.

[THE BOUNCER]

this is along the same lines as the first Atom bomb experiment. they were not sure if the bomb would set off a chain reaction in the atmosphere and destroy the world.

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

this is along the same lines as the first Atom bomb experiment. they were not sure if the bomb would set off a chain reaction in the atmosphere and destroy the world.

We got away with it once and now we are playing with fire again. I vote no!

[THE BOUNCER]

i would say that more research into the subject is definitely warranted. doubt anything would happen but knowing all you can about something potentially dangerous is not a bad thing.

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i would say that more research into the subject is definitely warranted. doubt anything would happen but knowing all you can about something potentially dangerous is not a bad thing.

Yep. I've been reading about it tonight. Basically they are creating matter that no one has ever seen and doesn't exist on earth. Seems a little dangerous. But so much money has gone into it, there is no way things will slow down now. I'm surprised its not a bigger story. I don't think they have the right to go through with such an experiment.

[The_Grinder]

Even though the odds are low, the consequences of being wrong are infinite. That's why I don't believe they have the right to do it.

Basically, look at it like this. Imagine you were 99% sure of something. Imagine someone offered you a bet on a football game between a high school team and an NFL team. Obviously this is a "sure thing". (If there is such a thing) The wager is, if the NFL team wins, you get $1000. If the high school team wins, you die. I know I wouldn't take that bet...

[NewbieChris]

I remember reading about that a few months ago. I can see the argument that it is the same thing as testing the Atom Bomb. I just don't agree that scientists have the right to put the entire world at risk without hearing the peoples opinion.

A black hole, something we know nothing about, is different than a thermal reaction in the atmosphere. Mainly because you would have a chance to live through the latter and not the former. To me, its scary that they feel they can do it without the consent of the global community.

Its not that the consequences are so great it is that they were going to do it without the reaction of the people those consequences would effect. Seems like the same thing a tyrannical mad scientist would do.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

I remember reading about that a few months ago. I can see the argument that it is the same thing as testing the Atom Bomb. I just don't agree that scientists have the right to put the entire world at risk without hearing the peoples opinion.

A black hole, something we know nothing about, is different than a thermal reaction in the atmosphere. Mainly because you would have a chance to live through the latter and not the former. To me, its scary that they feel they can do it without the consent of the global community.

Its not that the consequences are so great it is that they were going to do it without the reaction of the people those consequences would effect. Seems like the same thing a tyranical made scientist would do.

agreed

[NewbieChris]

Well Grinder, it is big news now.

Multibillion-dollar experiment to probe nature's mysteries - CNN.com

The scientists are calling the fears 'baloney'. Glad to hear they respect peoples opinions and thoughts on the subject.

[blm]

You don't know the boundaries until you test them or pass them and relaize you've gone to far. I'm all far testing the limits....

Maybe it will accelarate the particles of illegal immigrants and they will all vanish, lol.

[alwaysgrowing]

Originally Posted by blm

You don't know the boundaries until you test them or pass them and relaize you've gone to far. I'm all far testing the limits....

Maybe it will accelarate the particles of illegal immigrants and they will all vanish, lol.

I have to agree. We push ourselves every day in the gym. There is a chance we could tear a muscle, rupture a tendon. There is even a chance, though minute, that exercise could trigger a heart attack. We don't think about it, because we have goals.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by alwaysgrowing

I have to agree. We push ourselves every day in the gym. There is a chance we could tear a muscle, rupture a tendon. There is even a chance, though minute, that exercise could trigger a heart attack. We don't think about it, because we have goals.

there is a difference between pushing ourselves and making uneducated decisions.

i am not saying we shouldn't experiment and try etc.. i am simply saying that when it comes to something as big as this, knowledge is power. wouldn't hurt to take a year and learn a bit more about the potential risks etc..

[blm]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

wouldn't hurt to take a year and learn a bit more about the potential risks etc..

I doubt they would discover anything different then they have in the last decade of building it and the decades of research prior to its construction approval.

People are acting like this is a simple task that was carried out over night with out any forethought.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by blm

I doubt they would discover anything different then they have in the last decade of building it and the decades of research prior to its construction approval.

People are acting like this is a simple task that was carried out over night with out any forethought.

i thought they put it together about an hour ago.

eat shit

[The_Grinder]

Scientists are all about evidence. They say there is no god because there is no evidence.

Yet they can't come up with any empirical UNDISPUTED evidence that black holes won't be created. As long as some people have theories that it MIGHT happen, they shouldn't do it without seeing how the world feels about it.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by The_Grinder

Scientists are all about evidence. They say there is no god because there is no evidence.

Yet they can't come up with any empirical UNDISPUTED evidence that black holes won't be created. As long as some people have theories that it MIGHT happen, they shouldn't do it without seeing how the world feels about it.

you are just being southern now. i knew you would bring religion into it at some point. you southern assholes always go in that direction when science comes up.

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

you are just being southern now. i knew you would bring religion into it at some point. you southern assholes always go in that direction when science comes up.

I never said anything about my personal beliefs. Its just that these scientists reject something when there is a lack of 100% evidence. But yet they don't think they need evidence against the possibility of black holes to perform these experiments.

[jwoody]

Just an update, there is a show on the history channel tonight at 8 about this thing. It is called the New Big Bang

[Mr incredible]

ol Hawkins says they arn't sure what wil happen and if they did it wouldn't be worth doing, the otherscientists say bigger reactions happen in the solar system all the time, this is just a small one in a controlled argument. They seem to think they have it figured so hopefully al will be ok inside a mountain

[Shibby]

I watched all about this on an episode of Modern Marvels. I have no worries about it.