Injecting B12- If You're a Natty? - SuperiorMuscle.com

YellowJacket · #1 08-10-03, 07:49 AM

What do you guys and girls think?

I know B12 is 100% natural as its a vitamin, but is injecting qualify as 'legal' in the natural world?

The main thing Im getting at is injecting, I know its not a synthetic hormone, but injecting is questionable, IMO.

sana · #2 08-10-03, 08:10 AM

i don't think delivery method has anything to do with being natural or not. so i guess i would say it's fine.

Aurora · #3 08-10-03, 08:11 AM

Whats next? protien in an IV?

MrMuscle · #4 08-10-03, 12:37 PM

i HATE needles.

Ratchet · #5 08-10-03, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by sana
i don't think delivery method has anything to do with being natural or not. so i guess i would say it's fine.

I agree with sana, I do not think the delivery method of a naturally occuring substance makes a differance. Altho, you could probably make the same argument for for steroids.

I guess I am not completly sure. Part of it is that B12 is legal, so ..... maybe that playes a part.

Why must you ask such hard questions. Can't you just stick to simple ones like is 1000mg/week of test to much for a noobs first cycle.

Good question.

snowblind · #6 08-13-03, 06:19 PM

hey, is injecting b-12 worth it over oral? i get shot up with stuff all the time but i dont know if i ever had a b-12.

YellowJacket · #7 08-13-03, 06:23 PM

Injectable b12 is 100 times better, IMO.

snowblind · #8 08-13-03, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by YellowJacket
Injectable b12 is 100 times better, IMO.

better how so? can you feel it? ed injects? can it be found legally? tell me tell me please!!

YellowJacket · #9 08-13-03, 09:46 PM

Its legal. I feel it mostly when I eat... I get real warm, and have a lot more energy after I eat..... injections are ED. Check PowerNutrition.net or Lionnutrition.com.

rock · #10 08-13-03, 11:10 PM

Hmmmm....I first started w/ injectable B12......I guess nattys argue that b/c it is legal it is not "using".....steroids are legal in Mexico......Am I natural there???

snowblind · #11 08-14-03, 07:11 AM

thanx for the info YJ!

lovetoeat · #12 08-14-03, 09:08 AM

B12 never did much for me except fighting off a cold(great for this!) but it's not illegal, I would think any sort of supplement is technically not natural. But then again neither is going to the gym, busting your ass and trying to look un-natural.

sana · #13 08-14-03, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by rock
Hmmmm....I first started w/ injectable B12......I guess nattys argue that b/c it is legal it is not "using".....steroids are legal in Mexico......Am I natural there???

to me delivery method and legality are not what define "natural"... i define natural as anyone who has not - now or in the past - introduced any androgen into the body in order to increase your free test levels in your body to build more muscle.

so no - you're still not natty if you inject a steroid in mexico just b/c it's legal.

mikereid · #14 08-23-03, 05:45 AM

To me injecting B12 is perfectly fine and is something that most should do. B12 really is a great appetite/energy enhancer.

The problem with taking B12 orally is that the GI tract destroys more than 90% of it, so it is not an effective way of taking it at all.

You will have to find a source for it if you live in the US but in Canada you can walk into any pharmacy and pick it up.

The only problem is that it’s an ED injection, which some may not like.

The recommended dose is 1000mcg ED.

snowblind · #15 08-27-03, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by mikereid
To me injecting B12 is perfectly fine and is something that most should do. B12 really is a great appetite/energy enhancer.

The problem with taking B12 orally is that the GI tract destroys more than 90% of it, so it is not an effective way of taking it at all.

You will have to find a source for it if you live in the US but in Canada you can walk into any pharmacy and pick it up.

The only problem is that it’s an ED injection, which some may not like.

The recommended dose is 1000mcg ED.

lionnutrition has it but i dont know if they will ship it to the states.
dont know why they wouldnt since i cant see it being a controlled substance, but havent looked into it enough. anyone know for sure?

mountainman · #16 10-17-03, 05:38 PM

i take 1000mcg eod and lemme tell all yall it is the closest thing toi the foruntain of youth i have found
it is soo easy i use a 1 cc insulin needle i don`t even feel it at all
yeah in canada i can walk in any pharacy and get it
some places might give me a hassle but usually i end up wal;king away with a 10 cc 1000mcg bottle for like 15-20 $ cad
all praise the b-12

buyb12 · #17 10-22-03, 02:19 PM

lion ships everywhere ....there turnaround is 2-3 days in the US

Woodsman · #18 10-31-03, 10:59 AM

Hi Everyone.
I'm new to SM, but I couldn't help but comment. Nice place you'all got here!
I did that (inj. B12)for a while. i thought it really leaned me up. I looked allot more vascular too. Think I'll do it again. Thing is, Natural only gets you so far as your genetic limits. I have a friend who is juicing, and now looks like a gorrilla. I'd rather look natural

buyb12 · #19 10-31-03, 12:59 PM

welcome woodsman your are right ...b12 is not magic there are many good articles on it ..on this board or your can go to www.lionnutrition.com and you will find article on the left of the page...........We will be running a promo on Letrozole and B12 this week

Atherjen · #20 11-05-03, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sana
to me delivery method and legality are not what define "natural"... i define natural as anyone who has not - now or in the past - introduced any androgen into the body in order to increase your free test levels in your body to build more muscle.

so no - you're still not natty if you inject a steroid in mexico just b/c it's legal.

WELL SAID!!

Rottweiler · #21 11-05-03, 07:37 AM

If you "inject" are you still considered Natural?? I start the Methyl stack Sunday and have just picked up the 4AD cyp to go with it... a buddy that I train with is totally disgusted and looks down on me now because I will be "injecting" - regardless if it’s just a pro-hormone or a vitamin. So to him, I'm not a natty anymore... this is very debatable and would be a great conversation for a new thread.

Atherjen · #22 11-05-03, 07:57 AM

...... I had a couple old friends that didnt consider me a natural bodybuilder because I used whey protein and the dreaded awful creatine.. LMAO!

buyb12 · #23 11-05-03, 10:43 AM

fuckum get big let them worry ifyour "natty " or not when you put on 20 pounds and lean out......they can sit around on a friday night ...when your out with a hotty and there sitting home....

canadagold · #24 11-23-03, 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by snowblind
hey, is injecting b-12 worth it over oral? i get shot up with stuff all the time but i dont know if i ever had a b-12.

Oral b-12 is useless for bbuilding purposes. . .only the injectable is really effective at increasing appetite. Although not natural now, I trained natural for 8 years + and cyano was one of the only things that I can say I really "felt" when I took it. .as in I "felt" like eating the whole fridge.. ..
Regarding the original question I was totally opposed to AAS back then and would bash anyone using them haha. .but I still considered b-12 inj a natty supp.

keep safe
CG

AshTray · #25 11-24-03, 02:21 PM

lionnutrition is a freakin' rip 30 dollars!!

Calvetsupply.com has it for 7 bucks i think for 100 mL

Atherjen · #26 11-27-03, 04:53 PM

lion nutrition carries human grade inj b12 where as calvet is vetgrade(for animals) ,... thats the reasoning behind the price diff.

muscledoc · #27 12-09-03, 07:10 AM

The sub-lingual tablet of methylcobalamine is a fairly good alernative to injecting if you dont like needles

legaljuicer · #28 12-29-03, 10:37 AM

I have used the calvet b12 with no problems