Natural test boosters

[barbender]

I was wondering if anyone knows of any effective natural test boosters that work on the Leydig cells of the testicles? Most on the market are pituitary stimulants that aid in production of FSH or LH or the levels of bound test to the SHBG. I was looking for one that works at the Leydig cell level. Any thoughts?

[YellowJacket]

Leydig cells are activated by LH.... youre basically looking for a legit, over the counter HCG product? Good luck.

[barbender]

Correct, the Leydig cells are activated by lutenizing hormone but there are certain other factors. HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, is basically a form of mimicked LH. My question was not for a otc hcg. What I was wanting was another supplement that does not act as LH but is effective for helping the testicles to more efficiently utilize the levels of LH produced by the pituitary. Let me tell you what my probelem is. I have, after several rounds of blood work, discovered that while my FSH and LH levels are right, my levels of test, both bound and free, are low. This would indicate that the leydig cells are not responding in the way they should.

[YellowJacket]

Originally Posted by barbender

Correct, the Leydig cells are activated by lutenizing hormone but there are certain other factors. HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, is basically a form of mimicked LH. My question was not for a otc hcg. What I was wanting was another supplement that does not act as LH but is effective for helping the testicles to more efficiently utilize the levels of LH produced by the pituitary. Let me tell you what my probelem is. I have, after several rounds of blood work, discovered that while my FSH and LH levels are right, my levels of test, both bound and free, are low. This would indicate that the leydig cells are not responding in the way they should.

Then thats something to take up with a physician, not a OTC supplement. If there were such a supplement, there would be no need to use anything else.

[barbender]

True I was just hoping that there was something out there that had been shown to act in such a way.

[THE BOUNCER]

how come you made the same post twice bro? one post is enough. Natural test boosters

[Mr incredible]

don't know anything natural, how long have you been off, maybe it just needs time bro

[barbender]

Yeah, time has helped. My levels have gone up but it has been a very slow process. I got crazy sick at the end of my last cycle and like an idiot just stopped the gear and didn't use my PCT. I was too sick to even think about that. I know, I know, don't bust my balls about it. I know i screwed up. I have been off now for about 8 months I think but can't remember the exact time.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by barbender

Yeah, time has helped. My levels have gone up but it has been a very slow process. I got crazy sick at the end of my last cycle and like an idiot just stopped the gear and didn't use my PCT. I was too sick to even think about that. I know, I know, don't bust my balls about it. I know i screwed up. I have been off now for about 8 months I think but can't remember the exact time.

have you have your levels checked lately then? your levels may be fine now.

[barbender]

Yeah I had my levels worked up and they weren't what they should be still.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by barbender

Yeah I had my levels worked up and they weren't what they should be still.

what were they? maybe i missed where you posted them?

[Mr incredible]

on what I've read you test levels should be where they are going to get to by now or another month on the basis it takes about 9 months, following the clearance of gear from you system, so perhaps ten months after your last test e shot for example.

I'm convinced that having done quite a few courses, if I or Stonecold or someone of similar ilk, dropped the gear, even after we had done proper pct and waited nine months, our test levels may be bellow average for our age. Thats because we have run the gear and ultimetely there may well be some degree of permanence to its suppresion effect on natural test.

On another note, I have felt mild improvements in aggressiveness in training and focus when using NO2 and tribulus extract. Ultimately though I don't think there is any holy grail of over the counter product to improve your natural test levels. I do thing the aforementioned products and especially creatine ethyl ester are good over the counter products that will improved your training.

Other than that, adequate rest and good diet are key to maintaining your body's recouperation and endocrine system (posibly supplemented with evening primrose oil). But thats about the sum of it.

There's natural, and then there's the other way