food supliments to reach cal intake

[tierhoggg]

im am looking for any helpful tips on how to reach ones intake of calories. im at 190lb now, and i know you need appx 35-4500 cals to get optimum gains on a mass cycle. whats the perfered methods weight gainer, mrs,ect? if so, what are some good brands?

[psyko1]

Whichever you use make sure they don't have TOO much sugar.

[JACKAL]

yeh, check this page out for a home-made meal replacement shake bro:

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...=&threadid=568

[xxovercomexx]

Staples to my diet when bulking, r all natural peanut butter, whole milk, eggs, red meat, and a ton of it, hell anything i can get my hands on to just dish down calories...hell just go for the calories if ur bulking, eat all the meat u can get ur hands on.

[candle25]

Proteins
You want to eat a variety of protein sources that are mostly slow digestion proteins like: tuna, turkey, chicken, egg whites, no fat cottage cheese, skim milk, & lean steaks. You'll want to supplement with Whey protein after a run or workout because it's faster to be absorbed. Throw in a high GI carb like 30g Dextrose to optimize your recovory time and muscle gains.

Carbs
Speaking of carbs, you want all low GI all the time with the exception to post training. Good sources of those are: Oatmeal, brown rice, yams, & sweet potatoes. These will give you an equal flow of energy that you need to train hard.

Fats
Finaly we have the fats. You actualy need some fat, but not just any kind. EFA's to be specific. Try to eliminat all the trans sat fats you can from your diet. Replace them with the good fats found in olives, fish, and especially flax seed.

As for weight gainer, ON makes a good one with complex carbs and not much sugar.

[New_Mass]

xxovercomexx said it, If this is your 1st Mass stage dont play with it just take in as much calories as needed and some at each meal setting.

[BIG TEXAN]

Originally posted by candle25
Proteins
You want to eat a variety of protein sources that are mostly slow digestion proteins like: tuna, turkey, chicken, egg whites, no fat cottage cheese, skim milk, & lean steaks. You'll want to supplement with Whey protein after a run or workout because it's faster to be absorbed. Throw in a high GI carb like 30g Dextrose to optimize your recovory time and muscle gains.

Carbs
Speaking of carbs, you want all low GI all the time with the exception to post training. Good sources of those are: Oatmeal, brown rice, yams, & sweet potatoes. These will give you an equal flow of energy that you need to train hard.

Fats
Finaly we have the fats. You actualy need some fat, but not just any kind. EFA's to be specific. Try to eliminat all the trans sat fats you can from your diet. Replace them with the good fats found in olives, fish, and especially flax seed.

Exactly..... this is al you need to know about how to reach your calorie goal. You always want to eat clean whether bulking or dieting...... only difference is the amounts you should be eating. Don't think you can eat at McDonalds everyday just because your bulking. YEa you'll put on weight but a hell of a lot more fat than muscle. Keep it clean but give yourslef some room to cheat. As for a weight gainer.... make your pwn, cheaper nad better. All ya need is some 1 1/2 cup oats, 2 tablespoons of natty pb, 2-3 scoops of protein powder, and water or milk if your diet allows it. That's what I use and it's been working for years.

[redsquirrel]

Nuts; peanuts, cashews, pistachios, almonds, any of them are great ways to get a lot of calories through out the day Eat 1c. throughout the day and you just added another 800-1000 more calories. Also, for optimum growth, make sure you eat a gainer shake IMMEDIATELY post work out. Take it with you in the car if you have to. You have got to rebuild your receptors after you just broke them down.

[Rome]

i wouldnt eat that many calories at 190 pounds bro, try for 3-3500 cals a day

[bigpetefox]

Originally posted by Rome
i wouldnt eat that many calories at 190 pounds bro, try for 3-3500 cals a day

That happens to be specific to metabolism.. At 190lbs, if you're maintaining that weight, 3500cals might be low.. I diet on 3200, and cut at 2800 a day.. I weigh 202lbs right now, to maintain that, I have to eat 4500-4950 a day.. 3500 calories may help maintenance, but gaining you'll need more..

[Rome]

well i'm guessing he isnt at 2% bodyfat bigpete

[bigpetefox]

He's also bulking, 3500 ain't gonna do it..

[Rome]

bro you know damn well that will work just fine for him.

do the math real quick... 3500 is almost 19 cals per pound. yall BBers are nuts thinking you gotta get fat as shit just to gain anything.

[bigpetefox]

It's called eating clean.. I eat over 4500 a day, I'm 202lbs with visible abs.. If someone eats whatever, they deserve to be fat.. Some of us like to have it possible to not have too much fat to lose..

[Rome]

damn without your italian flag its obvious your foreign. maybe spend more time comprehending before you reply?

[bigpetefox]

Try saying anything productive, been waiting for that one..


Oh yeah, look at my avatar.. I'm half italian, and for your foreign crack, I served in the military 10 years, try again..

[6p6]

this was a good thread but somewhere in the middle a cat fight started!

[redsquirrel]

It is unfortunate. Instead of trying to help someone, a newbie decided he was going to call out some mods, and pretty much say they don't know what they are talking about...Great way to hijack a thread for someone who needed help.

Since roman seems to be all-knowing in all aspects of diet and training, he seems to be questioning sound advice instead of helping a fellow member.

I'm sure what we'd all like to know is :

What have you ever done, roman? What have you ever done to make us believe a word you are saying? You address us as "you bb'ers...so what are you, and why is your knowledge so much greater?

[Cory]

He's a pussy that use to be over at FG and did nothing but be argumentative and flame people. He posted his "ROAD CONE" of a leg ...and some other pics that were barely visable, but looked to be some teenage punk wanting to stir shit. If you can't be positive or offer constructive advice to people on this board, Rome, you are outa here!!

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Cory
He's a pussy that use to be over at FG and did nothing but be argumentative and flame people. He posted his "ROAD CONE" of a leg ...and some other pics that were barely visable, but looked to be some teenage punk wanting to stir shit. If you can't be positive or offer constructive advice to people on this board, Rome, you are outa here!!

Wow...came from FG and he's argumentative..NO WAY!! LOL
Thanks Cory...Road Cone!!!

[Faye]

Wow, guess he was itching for it.

[jipped genes]

i have never seen him at FG bfore his bitching post over there that was quickly quelled.