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no i'm not shooting to get fit like Joe public. I'm going for mass like pro football players. If i'll get a belly I'll burn it in 3-5 months.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK bouncer! First off every single pro bodybuilder eats fast food, and quite frequently i might add...i know Dorian yates, i have all of the pro bodybuilder videos, and the company i work for here in Canada has had Ronnie Colemean, Nasser, Greg kolvacs, Dorian Yates and numerous other probodybuilders up here for seminars and im close freinds with the host of those events (email me and il gladly give you his phone number AND ever single probodybuilders number i mentioned to show you im not kidding) all of them eat fast food, most of them on a DAILY BASIS! Leepreist even says in his video that he love mcdonalds and kfc, ronnie coleman eats out at every meal and mentions going ot mcdonalds, and jay cutler as well. Now about this "low quality food"....Mcdonald beef is "A" grad...its printed on the boxes fuck face, if its not it illegal, i highly doubt mcdonalds who do something as stupad as mass public fraud. "most of the carbs are simple carb", do you know what simple carbs are dumb ass, SUGAR! the carbs in Mcdonalds come from the brad and veggies, My brother worked for the company that makes the bums for mcdonalds, every bun is made the same way that your "good bread" is made, all the fat in fast food is from the beef and the sauce...all beef is HIGH in fat. I highly doubt your a probodybulder, and if you are, you are doing poorly no doubt! Have you ever seen a TOP probodybuilder in the offseason....they look like shit all the pics in the magazines are taken around competitions, Greg Kovacs and leepreist are some of THE FATEST FUCKS i have ever laid eyes on (greg kovac andf nasser trained together in my gym for years, greg still does) they all go upto about 25% bodyfat, the one who stay lean are genetically lean no matter what, or just eat very frequently and speed up their metabolism, colman only eats 4 times a day in his video, smae with markus (i know what he says about eating 8 times) the only thing you said that was correst was about eating frequency, 3 times is not enough, 4-6 offseason, and 8-12 is what ive been told by some pros, and larger ones, like Greg, have to eat much more frequently to get in sufficient amout of calories for growth, like the guy you banned (6'6")....i could go on all day about this shit, bottom line, you dont know shit! |
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Hear you dumb fuck, go here and compare bread and steak or hamburger beef to a mcdonalds burger, factor in condiments for extra fat, you'll find there almost identical...
http://www.nutritiondata.com |
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Bump for bouncer.
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"Working out is like building a house, everytime you do a half-ass workout, you're not laying a brick, someone else is." - Dorian Yates "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor." - Alexis Carrel "Whenever you're not in the the gym training, someone else out there is, and when you meet them, they will beat you." - Victor Martinez |
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Now let me tell you something else asshole. I've taken college biology classes. I spent months learning the ins and outs of fats/lipids, proteins, carbohydrates, and how they work in our system. Everything bouncer said is true. Take a look a fuckin' nutrition chart for just a second. When you look at the carb area, and it says 40g of carbs, and you look down 2 notches, and see that 30g of sugars, that's not healthy carbs. As for mc-donalds protein being "grade a". What the fuck are you smoking? If it was grade A, then how can they afford to sell us a pound of their meat for about $4? A pound of grade A meat, for instance, a steak (without the fat deposits), would cost you probably $10-15 at least if you're not buying in bulk. I bet you think hot dogs are good quality meat too right? Why don't you take a trip to the oscar meyer factories and see exactly what "grade a" material they're made with. Not much better than mcdonalds beef I assure you. I'm not disputing the fact the Ronnie Coleman, or Dorian Yates like to eat fast food sometimes. Other than that, everything you just said is "GRADE A" bullllshit. I would look forward to your reply, but I don't foresee much of a future for you on this forum. Good day... |
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Ban his retarded ass too Bouncer.. Morons we are surrounded by Morons!!!!
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shit, i go away for a couple of days and look what happens
that Dirty McD's diet has to be a joke. Burger King and McD's; what is the matter with Wendy's or is the unofficial spokesperson job taken? lordikon, the time is the crucial issue; it really ain't expensive. oats and protein powder, cottage cheese and salsa etc. Most of the items can be bought at a bulk food store. I couldn't afford to eat similar foods to Bouncer even with buying it at costco.
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"Oh well the experts on the Internet bodybuilding boards…well they know everything now don’t they. In fact, I go on the boards just to find out what I am supposed to be taking in case I forget. Lord knows that one would be foolish not to listen to guys hiding behind a computer that use more gear than a stable of race-horses and all they have to show for it is a 195lb. piss-poor physique shriveled nuts and a nice case of gyno." Lee Priest Last edited by MarcusMaximus : 09-16-04 at 01:06 PM. |
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saturated fat: 5g ground beef (70%lean) (raw 1/2 pound) : Cals: 375 *Total cal from FAT: 224* Protein: 36g Carbs: 0 total fat 25g saturated fat: 10g BUNS(100g) Cals: 288 Cals from fat 121 total fat: 14g saturated fat: 6g carbs:28g protein 14g POTATOES: (medium 173g (about the size or large mcdonalds fries[176g]BAKED[not fried like mcdonalds], salted) Total cals:161(not much) cals from fat: 2 Saturated fat: 0 Carbs: 37g protein:4g Kraft light mayo: 1 tbsp(15g) cals: 50g total cals from fat: 44g fat:5g saturated fat: 1g carbs:1g protein: 0g OK now im not even gonna do ketchup and mustard and pickles and onions, they the condiments are all pretty close, so add 2 more mayos and you've got the approx. amout. NOW LETS LOOK AT A Mcdonalds meal with large fries: fist, Mcdonalds uses only lean ground beef, not extra lean...why...cause it tastes better AND its cheaper, the guy who said how can they afford to sell us beef at 4 a pound...what the hell are you saying, i buy lean ground beef for 1.99 a pound or extra lean for 2.99, Mcdonalds buys everthing in MASSSSSSSSS BULK which means it cost them less, they probably buy their beef at $.50 to a buck a pound dumb ass, they buy thousand of ounds of beef and buns a day you ass, think before you speak. http://www.country-spice.com/webpage...onaldsbeef.htm ( (this is how much beef they buy, they're claiming there not enough in America to supposrt them...and yes, the beef is form the same place the beef you buy in the store is from(not a lab...like you ppl seem to think-do a search about mcdonalds beef...and dont come back talking about mad cow, cause that was found in grocery store beef in the U.S.A.) and mcdonalds beef is "A" grade...read what i said idiot...IT SAYS IT ON THE BOX (in canada anyways, im going to mcdonalds tomorrow to get a box and ill post the pic of it for you dumb fucks) MCDONALDS Quarter punder(no cheese) total cals: 420g toatal clas from fat: 190g total fat: 21g saturated fat: 8g (BOUNCER claims its "LOADED" with satuarted fat, i think you loaded with shit and stupidity bouncer) carbs: 36g protein 23g large fries: cals: 542 cals from fat: 231 total fat: 26g SATURATED FAT: 4g (althought the fat content is alot higher than a backed potoato [assuming you are nto adding butter or sour creme to it] its still not hight in saturated fat, they use good oil in the deep fryers boys) carbs: 68g protein: 8g alright now lats add it up Mcdonalds meal: total cals: 962 total calls from fat: 421 saturated fat: 12g carbs:104g protein: 31 ok, now baked potatos, bun and extra lean beef: total cals: total cals: 809 cals from fat: 372 fat: 44g carbs: 66g protein 66.5g not to far off eh fuckos: now let me get this clear, eating like this is not economical as i said before, im not talking abotu it being expensive...im saying you can get more cals from eating 8oz steak and 400g baked potatos with some olive oil (8oz grilling steak $2.50-$3.00($5-6 a pound, potaots, potots, 10 ponds for under 4 bucks, olive oil, 1 liter for under 10---so 8oz steak+400 potato=2tbsp olive oil= approx 1360cal, unless you get a better quality steak, then its about 1500...alot cheaper then the 7dollar 800cal mcydees eh) at a low cost, thats why fast food isnt eatin on a daily basis by bodybuilders, not cause its bad, fast food has greatly improved their quality in reccent years to to trends in healthy living. DO you dumb fucks get it now....you're all on this forum cause you dont know shit, your loking for answer, the problem is, bouncer doesn know shit either, id like ot see you stats bouncer, ive beem training for 3 years now, ive worked with chris aceto and top trainer, ive gone form 142 pound at 17 years old to 230lbs at 19 without steroids and now one years later 260 pouns after 3 cycles, who the fuck are you ppl to talk, send me some pics, ill post one of me no problem, you all nobodies you dont know what oyur saying, resaech before you run your mouth. JACK MAY..(owner of MAPLE LODHGE FARMS...exports his poultry to 10 countries, is in my gym everymoring when im there at 3am, he shipps his shicken to grocery stores and to kfc and swiss chalet) point.....eat wherever the fuck you want, bouncer and the rest of these fuck are retards...so to quote of of the dumb fucks on here...MORONS....IM SURROUNDED BY MORONS! |
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p.s. i only came across this message board by accident, i dont go on these stupid thing, for the reason you all shouldnt, bumb fucks like bouncer pretend to be pro bodybuilders and post shitty info.
AND it doesnt matter if you consum alot of carbs when trying to be lean...its all about WHEN you consum then that counts...ie..prior to 4pm, the only reason pro body builder only carb load one of two days a week and not everyday during contest pre is because when you want to be at the top there is nooooo room for error, why chance a little extra fat, they're also going to EXTREM low bodyfat percentages...3%....which is basically only fat on the organs, this is not healthy at all and shold only be done by those making money off their bodies, you can stay under 10% and eat Mcydees every morning. |
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once again visit http://www.nutritiondata.com/index.html for you nutritional info, get the real facts, dont take advice from message boards.
and that pic os of me 6'2" 260lbs after 3 years, one year on roids, 3 cycles. im 21years old. |
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before anyone corrects my comparing ½(even though it would shrink when cooked) meat to a 1/4 pounder buger, allow me....
MCDONALDS *DOUBLE* Quarter punder(no cheese) total cals: 650g total cals from fat: 350g total fat: 39g saturated fat: 15g carbs: 36g protein 41g large fries: cals: 542 cals from fat: 231 total fat: 26g SATURATED FAT: 4g (althought the fat content is alot higher than a backed potoato [assuming you are nto adding butter or sour creme to it] its still not hight in saturated fat, they use good oil in the deep fryers boys) carbs: 68g protein: 8g alright now lets add it up- Mcdonalds meal: total cals: 1192 total calls from fat: 581 saturated fat: 19g carbs: 104g protein: 49 ok, now baked potatos, bun and extra lean beef: total cals: total cals: 809 cals from fat: 372 fat: 44g carbs: 66g protein 66.5g this is with no condiments…add anything to this like mcdonalds ass to their burgers, they are almost identical (ex. Beans, sour cream, butter, bbq sauce, mayo, cheese, ect—easily add upto 500 cals with butter and sour crème….soo its still very close…. Steak and fries or potatos or even better pasta(160g dry=600cals + 8oz steak=500-700cals + 2 tbsp extra vigin olive oil= 360cals =1560-1760cal with pasta as opposed to potatos) would give you WAAAAAAY more clas for a less cost, which is why its better to eat “clean food” not cause fast food sucks. ive enclosed a nutritional fact sheet for 1 pound of sirlion steak...look a t the fat content and the saturated fat, suddenly mcydees doesn't look so bad eh fuckos |
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here....compare two of these to one steak(bacon doule cheeseburger from burger king---bk and wendies both use extra lean beef)
-im trying to give you idiots the staight facts beofre boucer blocks me for makin him look stupid. |
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Ok, i figure ill throw my 5 cents worth in here. Firstly i am not a body builder, im a martial artists, my gym partner is a body builder however (been training since he was in grade 5 he's about 5'7" @ 108kg). Ive only been gym training for about 2 years. My current stats are 24 years old, 81kg @ 5'11" and 10% BF. daver1111 your information is insightfull but a couple of things you should consider.
1. The fat value of the burgers and fries you can pretty much double. Why? Cause the kids working on the fry vats and grills dont drain the fat off as well as they should. Sure they may do it when the manager walks past but the rest of the time they dont give a shit. (Would you for 5 bucks an hour?) How do i know i use to work at macca's (manager). Did for 4 years. Also fry vat oil is usually about a month old before its changed. And i ask a question would you like to eat that much fat every meal of every day? That amount of saturated fat makes me feel like shit. (like i said ive worked there and have eated 3-4 meals a day of that shit). (BTW i am an ecto so got away with). Although still not good for the insides you can feel and it did fuck up my martial arts training. 2. What would you prefer? 30g of protein or 66g? Ill take the 66g home cooked meal. I know whats in it then. 3. Ok so you can stay under 10% while eating macca's. What if you didnt eat macca's? What would your body fat be then? I reacon thats good for a couple of % drop. Ive been up as high as 14% bodyfat and fucking hated it. Didnt feel like myself. Ok that said against macca's. I will eat it if ive got no choice. One meal of it every now and then aint going to screw with me that much. But eating 4 meals + of it pre day. Not good. Been there. And bouncer has eaten it for more then one meal a day. If you hunt around you can find the post for all his meals. (Bouncer, Did that day make you all bloated and feeling like shit?). IMO id prefer to put on lean muscle mass with clean food then have to fuck around later getting my bodyfat back down from over 25% to 10% and battling with all the side effects of being over weight on the way. (what hell would your cholesterol levels look like after eating that shit everyday all the time. Especially when on gear which fucks them up anyhow.) Now your entitled to your opinon and it looks like you have an idea of what your talking about. But dont think that that means you know everything you dont and nore do I. Read the opinons and post you own but calling everyone fuckos makes you look like a small petty little kid. Some of the guys on this site are quite knowledgable. (Skyefire your posts rock, always full of information)(Not kissing your ass here either. Well that pretty much covers what ive got to say on the subject. Take it as you will.
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MY issue with what you've said is that you believe that only eating 3 times a day with 3 meals of fast food - not just the burger, but the fries and milk shake - and what not - is what makes a person grow. you keep going back and forth on how ProBB'ers eat - how "they eat fast food all the time" to "they eat it once a day or so"... the issue isn't whether or not it can be eaten - but how in the HELL can you recommend to ANYONE to eat the way you first posted? only 3 meals a day and all three junk food - i don't get it. someone else did that for a month. his name is Morgan Spurlock and he made a movie called "Super Size Me" - he had a doctor monitor his health through this and the end result was that not only did he gain 30lbs, his cholestrol profiles went through the roof and his overall health deteriorated. you're only here to talk shit. give me your name, the names of the people you work out with and the pros that you train with. give me their number and let ME call them and confirm that it's beneficial to eat fast food 3 times a day. |
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this is fuckin unreal
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Pro Bodybuilder? When did I pretend to be a pro? Am I a bodybuilder? Yes but not a pro, hope to be someday soon but its getting tougher with all the great physiques around these days. I give shitty info? Hmm, lets see, "eat only 1-3 meals a day and consist those meals of low quility cals". LOL, and im the one giving shitty info? Listen im not against fast food, I eat in almost everyday as one of my meals only to keep the cals high. The rest of my meals are high quility. But what do I know, im just a "bumb fuck". lol |
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