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Old 08-29-04, 09:01 PM
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having trouble making it though training sessions

i used to work out on an empty stomache. i was only doing 1 body part per day, so i got through it. i am upping the intensity in the gym arnold style, and really giving it all i got, but i cant make it through to do 2 body parts. i tried eating some strawberries before the gym, might have helped a little, but not much. i tried a shake before the gym, but get nauseas easily. i need something good to eat when i wake up, and i hit the gym around hour or so after i wake up. going to try a couple slices of whole wheat tommorow before the gym see if that keeps me going.
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Old 08-29-04, 10:12 PM
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You might try using some Branch Chain Amino Acids before and during training. Best bet is to get them in powder form, mix with water, and drink it while you are training. The body will use the BCAA's as its energy source and will increase your endurance in the gym.

Doing this has made a huge difference in my endurance in the gym.
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Old 08-30-04, 09:21 AM
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in my opinion, preworkout meals are just as important as post workout. mix up a protein shake before your workout. put in some simple carbs like gatorade powder. BCAA's will also be very helpful. if your workout is very intense, drink about half the shake about a half hour before workout then the other half during your workout
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Both these guys are right on...... pre workout nutrition is just as important as post. Having a whole food meal about an hour before training (ie. oats and 1/2 can of tuna) or something like that and then half a shake 10 minutes pre workout and the other 1/2 while you train is excellent. Then of course your post workout shake.
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Both these guys are right on...... pre workout nutrition is just as important as post. Having a whole food meal about an hour before training (ie. oats and 1/2 can of tuna) or something like that and then half a shake 10 minutes pre workout and the other 1/2 while you train is excellent. Then of course your post workout shake.
Hey YJ do you think you should have any sort of carb intake afterwards or no ?
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Hey YJ do you think you should have any sort of carb intake afterwards or no ?
I would say yes to increase insulin levels to increase nutrient delivery. Plus insulinase levels are highest after working out, so this is when you'll get the most benefit.
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But make sure they are good carbs.
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I would say yes to increase insulin levels to increase nutrient delivery. Plus insulinase levels are highest after working out, so this is when you'll get the most benefit.

sounds good, thats what I was thinkin thanks bro
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Yes, but I suggest complex carbs post workout if one is going to consume a good amount of pre workout carbs. This is simply to provide a slower, more moderate insulin response and less potential for increasing adipose storage.
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I was eating my post slin meal and was thinking also about how consuming carbs post workout can help to keep the body from going into a catabolic state. After a workout the muscle are depleted of their glycogen. Without consuming carbs to replenish the glucose storage, the body will try to break down proteins or the proteins in your muscles into amino acids and then convert these into glucose. Hence the catabolism. Good idea to consume some dextrose like bouncer said.
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Yes, but I suggest complex carbs post workout if one is going to consume a good amount of pre workout carbs. This is simply to provide a slower, more moderate insulin response and less potential for increasing adipose storage.
Ahhh, didn't think about that. Good looking out bro.
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IMHO, if you've upped you're intensity and you're flat with no energy at workout it has nothing to do with a pre-workout meal and everything to do with daily nutritional habits and caloric intake.

I've been training in am for 20 years, 15 almost religiously, it's not what you've have in the morning it's what you ate day before.

Remember you're not putting any nutrients into body for several hours when you sleep, and then you go workout, which is fine, the body can handle this.

Yet, for the rest of the day if you don't eat right you will be going catabolic faster than a hornet.

If goal is increased intensity leading to gains.

After post workout meal, next meal 2 hours, next one 3, and 3 hours for each additional, and yes take a protein shake before bed.

Glutamine and BCAA's which I take before workout most of time is like icing on cake if you don't eat right all bet's are off.

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ive been eating very well, any1 know where to get these bcaas?
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Eating well, is important.

Best guess is if you are not making it through training session you are not eating enough.

Simple calories in calories out, you're running out of gas.
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Do you take a shake before bedtime.

Just saying this cause if you're running out of gas in training session it's not what you eat right before, most of that stuff isn't even digested by the time you are done
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ive been eating very well, any1 know where to get these bcaas?
Yes, you can get them here: BCAA's from PRD Sports

The GlutaCene is for pre and during the workout and the NitroMine is for immediately after training.
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U need a meal preworkout if u are lifting bro of complex carbs and some protein, never lift on an empty stomach, if u are just doing cardio thats a different story . I take in a scoop of whey at least before cardio. Before lifting always complex carbs. U are asking for disaster lifting on an empty tank
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