Which is a better breakfast?

[Jordan]

im undecided as to which is a better breakfast; oatmeal and 6 eggs (2 whole + 4 whites), or oatmeal and 1/2 a tub of cottage cheese. it feels like eggs are a better choice because they are king of the protein jungle, however technically cottage cheese seems smarter because it contains a fair chunck of whey protein, meaning ill have protein in my blood faster. plus, the 2 yolks and olive oil, means the protein will be slower digested still. what do you think; quality of protein to make sure i have good stuff in my blood, or fast digesting protein to make sure my muscles are being worked on asap? ps. i dont use whey protein concentrate or isolate so thats not an option

[metalmarty]

Personally, I have a 20g whey shake with morning vitamins upon waking, usually while my oatmeal/grits and eggs are cooling down a little. This way, I get fast protein to stop sleep induced catabolism, and whole food protein and carbs to last for the next two hours. The proteins should not interfere with each other's absorption, and at a dosage that is still fully utilized.

[metalmarty]

Sorry, I did not see that you don't use whey powder. Would you consider soy protein shakes, or is it just the fact that it is not whole food that bothers you?

[Jordan]

nah, i dont just really believe in most supplements. i mean think about it, look at a big juicy sirloin steak next to a little plastic cup with some white powder in it. which is going to make you grow? i have used lots of whey protein in the past, without depending on it and have never been impressed. the best bodybuilding results i have ever had was when i was living in south america, eating only top grade organic vegetables and free-range organics meats and dairy, along with lots of rest. right now im on another supplement-free stint and am also having great results. im not gaining weight super fast, but its looks like very high quality, hard, lean muscle. so basically, yes, i dont like supplements

[Jordan]

ill also ad, i find that when i have a tub of whey protein sitting on my counter, i get lazy and avoid cooking up a nutritious meal and just have a shake instead

[Shibby]

Why don't you cut the olive oil, use one less yolk, and if you want to up the protien add one more white. You want the nonfat protiens in the morning since you have straved your body of protien for a good length of time. The cottage cheese is slow digestion and it's best not to put carbs with the fat. Use that before bed.

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Why don't you cut the olive oil, use one less yolk, and if you want to up the protien add one more white. You want the nonfat protiens in the morning since you have straved your body of protien for a good length of time. The cottage cheese is slow digestion and it's best not to put carbs with the fat. Use that before bed.

Well said - I don't even have to say anything now !

[Alin]

Originally Posted by Jordan

im undecided as to which is a better breakfast; oatmeal and 6 eggs (2 whole + 4 whites), or oatmeal and 1/2 a tub of cottage cheese. it feels like eggs are a better choice because they are king of the protein jungle, however technically cottage cheese seems smarter because it contains a fair chunck of whey protein, meaning ill have protein in my blood faster. plus, the 2 yolks and olive oil, means the protein will be slower digested still. what do you think; quality of protein to make sure i have good stuff in my blood, or fast digesting protein to make sure my muscles are being worked on asap? ps. i dont use whey protein concentrate or isolate so thats not an option

i would go with oatmeal and eggs simply because i dont like cottage cheeese.

[Jordan]

Originally Posted by Alin

i would go with oatmeal and eggs simply because i dont like cottage cheeese.

thats really helpfull

[metalmarty]

Originally Posted by Jordan

nah, i dont just really believe in most supplements. i mean think about it, look at a big juicy sirloin steak next to a little plastic cup with some white powder in it. which is going to make you grow? i have used lots of whey protein in the past, without depending on it and have never been impressed. the best bodybuilding results i have ever had was when i was living in south america, eating only top grade organic vegetables and free-range organics meats and dairy, along with lots of rest. right now im on another supplement-free stint and am also having great results. im not gaining weight super fast, but its looks like very high quality, hard, lean muscle. so basically, yes, i dont like supplements

Good point. I try to eat whole foods as much as I can, but I will bear the shake under appetite or time constraints.

[Jordan]

ya shakes can have their time and place. however, my supplement bill last year was absolutely outrageous... id rather spend that money on better quality foods

[BBAddict]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Why don't you cut the olive oil, use one less yolk, and if you want to up the protien add one more white. You want the nonfat protiens in the morning since you have straved your body of protien for a good length of time. The cottage cheese is slow digestion and it's best not to put carbs with the fat. Use that before bed.

I started typing a reply and then saw this-well said. :bravonew:

[lxorl]

I have heard Sean Ray say about the exact same thing... prefers to eat his nutrition.. not drink it.

Originally Posted by Jordan

nah, i dont just really believe in most supplements. i mean think about it, look at a big juicy sirloin steak next to a little plastic cup with some white powder in it. which is going to make you grow? i have used lots of whey protein in the past, without depending on it and have never been impressed. the best bodybuilding results i have ever had was when i was living in south america, eating only top grade organic vegetables and free-range organics meats and dairy, along with lots of rest. right now im on another supplement-free stint and am also having great results. im not gaining weight super fast, but its looks like very high quality, hard, lean muscle. so basically, yes, i dont like supplements

[Control]

Originally Posted by Jordan

im undecided as to which is a better breakfast; oatmeal and 6 eggs (2 whole + 4 whites), or oatmeal and 1/2 a tub of cottage cheese. it feels like eggs are a better choice because they are king of the protein jungle, however technically cottage cheese seems smarter because it contains a fair chunck of whey protein, meaning ill have protein in my blood faster. plus, the 2 yolks and olive oil, means the protein will be slower digested still. what do you think; quality of protein to make sure i have good stuff in my blood, or fast digesting protein to make sure my muscles are being worked on asap? ps. i dont use whey protein concentrate or isolate so thats not an option

Oatmeal and eggs, and eat all six whole (unless you have high cholesterol).

[metalmarty]

Originally Posted by Control

Oatmeal and eggs, and eat all six whole (unless you have high cholesterol).

Yeah, if you don't have a problem with cholesterol, I would suggest eating whole eggs. Think about it, the chick inside the egg grows from the nutrients in the yolk- the white is just a shock absorber. The yolk contains most of the protein. Also, there is no direct correlation between egg yolks and high cholesterol. It is the saturated fats that in excess can lead to high cholesterol. As bodybuilders, I don't see how that small amount of saturated fat can hurt us, granted everything else is in check and you're not running ludicrous amounts of gear. Plus, saturated fats raise testosterone.

[Shibby]

The point of taking the yolks out is to reduce the fat and keep the protien absorbtion rate fast.

[BBAddict]

Originally Posted by Shibby

The point of taking the yolks out is to reduce the fat and keep the protien absorbtion rate fast.

Particularly, if the eggs are being eaten first thing in the morning, it is important to allow the protein to reach the system ASAP. 6 eggs of fat (over 30 gms of fat) is a lot first thing in the morning.

[Control]

Originally Posted by Shibby

The point of taking the yolks out is to reduce the fat and keep the protien absorbtion rate fast.

The first thing I do in the morning is drink a protein shake and a glass of orange juice (unless I'm not eating carbs that day). Then after I shower, shave, get dressed etc I eat my first real meal. Egg whites by themselves are a pretty lackluster protein source IMO. I don't just eat eggs for breakfast either, I might eat them 3 different times in the same day.

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by Control

The first thing I do in the morning is drink a protein shake and a glass of orange juice (unless I'm not eating carbs that day). Then after I shower, shave, get dressed etc I eat my first real meal. Egg whites by themselves are a pretty lackluster protein source IMO. I don't just eat eggs for breakfast either, I might eat them 3 different times in the same day.

I completely understand what you are talking about. This guy though dosn't use protien shakes and he was asking for our opinions on eggs vs cottage cheese. So I was just giving an answer to the context given.

[Control]

Originally Posted by Shibby

I completely understand what you are talking about. This guy though dosn't use protien shakes and he was asking for our opinions on eggs vs cottage cheese. So I was just giving an answer to the context given.

Damn, I didn't even read the part about no whey protein. I get about 100 to 200 grams of protein per day from whey...