Marijuana - SuperiorMuscle.com

AxHartford15 · #1 03-12-06, 07:22 PM

I may just be setting myself up for ridicule but screw it. Since I don't like to drink i smoke pot on occasion instead. I have never noticed any adverse effects as long as I do it after I train so I'm not lazy. In fact it just help me eat more that I need to. Anyway I have looked far and wide and never found any proof that it has any adverse effects on muscle growth. Cardiovascular maybe yea sure but hell in MD they actually a had a study that said that THC helped prevent lung cancer(yes prevent). Anyway I was just wondering everyones thoughts and any informative research you've found.

YellowJacket · #2 03-12-06, 07:26 PM

Be a pothead or a bodybuilder, cant be both.

Not to mention this topic has been beat to death on this board and a myriad of others..... use the search function....

rado · #3 03-12-06, 07:31 PM

Don't do rec drugs while on AS; why

I think at one point or another we've all smoked pot, but try to stay away from it while on AS. Not condoning it at all, hell I smoked some while I went on my Thanksgiving cruise, but not a good thing to do. But then again, I haven't been on AS in almost 2yrs.

Stay away from it.

AxHartford15 · #4 03-12-06, 08:45 PM

I'm not a pothead. I smoke very rarely. The only thing I have found with credible evidence is the effect on your lungs. Countless studies have shown that people who smoked all day still showed normal testosterone levels. It really doesn't matter I guess cause as long as it is illegal the government will lie about it all they feel(steroids anyone?).

**Shibby** · #5 03-12-06, 08:49 PM

Have you researched how it affects your estrogen and why it causes you to be hungry?

Alin · #6 03-13-06, 07:31 PM

makes people lazy, removes motivation, can cause gyno, memory loss, and smoking is bad for whole body.

metalmarty · #7 03-13-06, 08:45 PM

If you do recreational drugs, smoke cigarrettes, or get drunk you have no right calling yourself a bodybuilder, period. We try to take our bodies to the next level, not destroy them. Articles that defend marijuana are omitting a lot of negative information to justify stupidity.

AxHartford15 · #8 03-13-06, 09:25 PM

Sorry metal marty but I disagree with you. Ever hear of Mike Mentzer? He smoked cigs and ate whatever he wanted because he is a bodybuilder, not a health freak. And I happen to know tons of bodybuilders who used to do way more shit than the OCCASIONAL(once a month maybe) pot smoking. And I wont name names but there are top pro bodybuilders who are known to party pretty hard. Reading magazines will even tell you that.

YellowJacket · #9 03-13-06, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AxHartford15

Sorry metal marty but I disagree with you. Ever hear of Mike Mentzer? He smoked cigs and ate whatever he wanted because he is a bodybuilder, not a health freak. And I happen to know tons of bodybuilders who used to do way more shit than the OCCASIONAL(once a month maybe) pot smoking. And I wont name names but there are top pro bodybuilders who are known to party pretty hard. Reading magazines will even tell you that.

Because hes a GENETIC FREAK, youre not.

AxHartford15 · #10 03-13-06, 10:22 PM

You know me? No.

**Shibby** · #11 03-13-06, 10:34 PM

After reading your posts so far, you ask and discuss so much of what a average person has to deal with. Do we know you? No. Do we need to? No.

YellowJacket · #12 03-13-06, 10:54 PM

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You know me? No.

Well, considering that about 1% of the world falls under "elite athletes", which is inclusive to bodybuilding, and youre on here asking about smoking weed, Im going to assume no... dont flatter yourself.

AxHartford15 · #13 03-13-06, 11:14 PM

I'm not gonna even argue with you yellow because you look like every scrawny idiot I see in the gym doing biceps everyday and couldn't even compete in bantamweight. You wanna bash drugs because of the not even proven information? Then show me some proof and I'll acknowledge it. No one has shown me credible proof yet. That's the whole reason I started this post because I am skepticle of what people say the same way I am about what people lie and say about roids. Why don't you start bashing steroids the way the the media does because that is only fair. Everyone is average. No one is special. That's where hard work and knowledge comes in.

YellowJacket · #14 03-13-06, 11:20 PM

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I'm not gonna even argue with you yellow because you look like every scrawny idiot I see in the gym doing biceps everyday and couldn't even compete in bantamweight. You wanna bash drugs because of the not even proven information? Then show me some proof and I'll acknowledge it. No one has shown me credible proof yet. That's the whole reason I started this post because I am skepticle of what people say the same way I am about what people lie and say about roids. Why don't you start bashing steroids the way the the media does because that is only fair. Everyone is average. No one is special. That's where hard work and knowledge comes in.

Why dont you go to bodybuilding.com and make friends in the teen forum?

**Shibby** · #15 03-13-06, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AxHartford15

I'm not gonna even argue with you yellow because you look like every scrawny idiot I see in the gym doing biceps everyday and couldn't even compete in bantamweight. You wanna bash drugs because of the not even proven information? Then show me some proof and I'll acknowledge it. No one has shown me credible proof yet. That's the whole reason I started this post because I am skepticle of what people say the same way I am about what people lie and say about roids. Why don't you start bashing steroids the way the the media does because that is only fair. Everyone is average. No one is special. That's where hard work and knowledge comes in.

Are you seriously trying to find reasons it's ok to use pot? Do it or don't do it. This is a bodybuilding forum and we don't normally allow any type of rec drug discussion. So go be a weed smoker and leave our board, or stay and give up the sensless drug use.

AxHartford15 · #16 03-13-06, 11:31 PM

No I was simply trying to find information since none of the previous posts really addressed it with any kind of information or link or anything. Yea I love to hear YOUR opinions and criticizms(sp?) and that's why I am here but it still isn't proof. There is no need to get bitter about a little playful arguing.

**Shibby** · #17 03-13-06, 11:36 PM

I'm trying to figure out why you should be a part of this board...?

AxHartford15 · #18 03-13-06, 11:50 PM

Just forget it, it's not worth arguing over one bit.

**Shibby** · #19 03-13-06, 11:51 PM

Sorry we didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

AxHartford15 · #20 03-14-06, 12:00 AM

Nah man it has nothing to do with that at all. I mean I do it so rarely once a month was an extreme exageration its probably more like once every 3 months. It's not like I would be quitting a 3 year addiction or anything it would be more like stopping eating candy or something. I just had read stuff about marijuana in MD magazine and wanted to hear more because most of times in that magazine they show studies proving people wrong about it.

metalmarty · #21 03-14-06, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AxHartford15

Sorry metal marty but I disagree with you. Ever hear of Mike Mentzer? He smoked cigs and ate whatever he wanted because he is a bodybuilder, not a health freak. And I happen to know tons of bodybuilders who used to do way more shit than the OCCASIONAL(once a month maybe) pot smoking. And I wont name names but there are top pro bodybuilders who are known to party pretty hard. Reading magazines will even tell you that.

I'm not trying to argue with you or bash you here, but my opinion is what it is. I know of all those things that the pros do; I read all that crap too. No doubt they still have great physiques, but they need to straighten their priorities if they think their behavior is commendable. And no disrespect to such a great bodybuilder as himself, but Mentzer is dead, and at a very young age. Any drug comes at a cost, and if you can control it that's great, but why bother if you can just totally prevent it from the start?

Jordan · #22 03-14-06, 12:57 PM

Allow me to end this disscussion: smoking weed once a month isnt bad for anyone. Not even one zillionth as bad as the car emmisions you inhale everyday. if youre training for a specific event, obviously you will want to cut out absolutly anything that could have adverse effects. And it is true that most of the weed stereotypes are grossly exagerated (thanks to the 'reefer madness' era) and in fact the health benefits are largely underestimated for the most part. Smoke your weed once a month, youll be fine. End of discussion. Everyones happy. Good day.

meat12 · #23 03-14-06, 01:07 PM

If you have to ask the question then your not truely devoted to body building. It's a lifestyle that involves discipline and sacrifice. You sound like the type that goes from doctor to doctor til they hear what they wanna hear. The fact that you felt you had to ask the question answers itself. Good luck

metalmarty · #24 03-14-06, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by meat12

If you have to ask the question then your not truely devoted to body building. It's a lifestyle that involves discipline and sacrifice. You sound like the type that goes from doctor to doctor til they hear what they wanna hear. The fact that you felt you had to ask the question answers itself. Good luck

:bravonew:

**Shibby** · #25 03-14-06, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

Allow me to end this disscussion: smoking weed once a month isnt bad for anyone. Not even one zillionth as bad as the car emmisions you inhale everyday. if youre training for a specific event, obviously you will want to cut out absolutly anything that could have adverse effects. And it is true that most of the weed stereotypes are grossly exagerated (thanks to the 'reefer madness' era) and in fact the health benefits are largely underestimated for the most part. Smoke your weed once a month, youll be fine. End of discussion. Everyones happy. Good day.

Yea, because that once a month, won't turn into twice a month, three times a month... Now this guy is also asking about supplementing it if he got the answer he was looking for. Then I'm sure using it everyday won't cause any problems. You're about as dense for supporting the question as he was for asking it.

Jordan · #26 03-14-06, 03:10 PM

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Yea, because that once a month, won't turn into twice a month, three times a month...

umm, theres no reason to assume that. i take a small puff of weed every once in awhile... maybe once every couple months and trust me, it doesnt feel NEARLY as bad as drinking alcohol. It all comes down to which substances are accepted by society and which arent. Imagine if caffiene was only introduced to society today. Everyone would be like 'hey have you heard of this new drug students and businessmen are taking so they can force themselves to work harder?". A rare puff of weed is as harmless as can be. Im not advocating it but its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. and im not dense, mr. angrypants