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Soda, does it destroy protein/nutrients?

For years people have been talking about how the carbonation in soda destroys protein/nutrients that you eat. This is not about other ingredients in soda, sugar or any of that. This is simply about carbonation and its effects on nutrients. Anyone have any studies or articles? Thanks
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I've read somewhere that carbonation speeds up the digestion process and that the protein you eat can be digested too quickly for your body to absorb it. I doubt that though.
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Any thing backed by science though? Those articles seem to be more opinion and what they think, the second link especially. I guess I am looking for studies.
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There is definitely evidence that carbonated drink interfere with calcium absorption in the body. See reference 6 in the link below.

http://www.ada.org/prof/resources/to...softdrinks.pdf
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There is definitely evidence that carbonated drink interfere with calcium absorption in the body. See reference 6 in the link below.

http://www.ada.org/prof/resources/to...softdrinks.pdf
Maybe this is why my joints and bones have been bothering me.
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For years people have been talking about how the carbonation in soda destroys protein/nutrients that you eat. This is not about other ingredients in soda, sugar or any of that. This is simply about carbonation and its effects on nutrients. Anyone have any studies or articles? Thanks
I know I'm preaching to the choir but if you drink straight water then you don't really have to worry.

I would be more worried about the chemicals and the sugar substitutes that they put in the diet crap
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I know I'm preaching to the choir but if you drink straight water then you don't really have to worry.

I would be more worried about the chemicals and the sugar substitutes that they put in the diet crap
yes i understand all that. i only drink water. i also understand the possible problems with the sugar and sugar substitutes but this thread is not about that. it is about carbonation and its effect on nutrients.
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Maybe this is why my joints and bones have been bothering me.
very doubtful but what the hell are you doing drinking a lot of soda anyway?
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very doubtful but what the hell are you doing drinking a lot of soda anyway?
It's tasty. My body is so out of wack lately I cant get in a groove with this move and shit. After this weekend I am joining a new gym and getting my body back in shape.
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yes i understand all that. i only drink water. i also understand the possible problems with the sugar and sugar substitutes but this thread is not about that. it is about carbonation and its effect on nutrients.
So who are you trying to cconvince? I know if you do find something I'm going to print it out and put it up in my office so I don't have to have the argument anymore, I can just point to it.
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It's tasty.
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So who are you trying to cconvince? I know if you do find something I'm going to print it out and put it up in my office so I don't have to have the argument anymore, I can just point to it.
who am i trying to convince? i am not trying to convince anyone. i was interested in the subject because I see people debating it a lot and i wanted to know if there was solid evidence or not. is that ok with you? lol
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who am i trying to convince? i am not trying to convince anyone. i was interested in the subject because I see people debating it a lot and i wanted to know if there was solid evidence or not. is that ok with you? lol
you're not talking to Rado here.........I'm interested too. I just figured that you had tried to help someone out by explaining that soda was not good for them and they argued with you about it. And since you asked, YES, it is fine with me. carry on.
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you're not talking to Rado here.........I'm interested too. I just figured that you had tried to help someone out by explaining that soda was not good for them and they argued with you about it. And since you asked, YES, it is fine with me. carry on.
haha, sorry, i thought you were saying it like, "who the fuck are you trying to convince you dumb fucker".
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I do know for a fact that Carbonation drastically increases the movement of foods/drinks in your stomach to your intestines. It is one of the topics covered in bartending as well as in my class to receive my liquor license. Carbonation will move the items in your stomach very quickly to your intestines. Its one of the key watchers when serving alcohol to people. Which is why you try and serve greasy foods to them to counter act the fast movement of carbonation. As you know greasy food takes far longer for your stomach to pass on, which keeps you sober longer.

So, what that can mean is: If the chemical in question is designed to MOSTLY be absorbed through your stomach and not your intestines then it will be short changed on you.
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I do know for a fact that Carbonation drastically increases the movement of foods/drinks in your stomach to your intestines. It is one of the topics covered in bartending as well as in my class to receive my liquor license. Carbonation will move the items in your stomach very quickly to your intestines. Its one of the key watchers when serving alcohol to people. Which is why you try and serve greasy foods to them to counter act the fast movement of carbonation. As you know greasy food takes far longer for your stomach to pass on, which keeps you sober longer.

So, what that can mean is: If the chemical in question is designed to MOSTLY be absorbed through your stomach and not your intestines then it will be short changed on you.
So basically if i wana drink two litres of coke i should make sure i eat some burgers and fries to counter each other so i can absorb the tuna and protien shakes i ate earlier.
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I do know for a fact that Carbonation drastically increases the movement of foods/drinks in your stomach to your intestines. It is one of the topics covered in bartending as well as in my class to receive my liquor license. Carbonation will move the items in your stomach very quickly to your intestines. Its one of the key watchers when serving alcohol to people. Which is why you try and serve greasy foods to them to counter act the fast movement of carbonation. As you know greasy food takes far longer for your stomach to pass on, which keeps you sober longer.

So, what that can mean is: If the chemical in question is designed to MOSTLY be absorbed through your stomach and not your intestines then it will be short changed on you.
good info, thanks
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So basically if i wana drink two litres of coke i should make sure i eat some burgers and fries to counter each other so i can absorb the tuna and protien shakes i ate earlier.
lol, shut the hell up.
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So basically if i wana drink two litres of coke i should make sure i eat some burgers and fries to counter each other so i can absorb the tuna and protein shakes i ate earlier.


Actually you would want to eat Buffalo Wings, Cheese Fries and Chili.
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