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Old 07-02-08, 09:30 PM
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lol....i am actually following controls diet that he laid out for me


its 1 can tuna, 3-4oz of peanuts/almond mix (unsalted), 25g shake, and 1 tablespoon EVOO

No, he said Control told him to drink this lol...
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No, he said Control told him to drink this lol...
ahh, well dna is just a dipshit. lol.
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Old 07-02-08, 09:41 PM
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if control is suggesting 3 cans of tuna plus 50 grams of whey he doesn't know as much as you give him credit for. lol

NO NO NO, he didn't suggest anything like that....i was one day sitting and thinking about how to jack up my protein and that's what i came up with, lol
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No, he said Control told him to drink this lol...
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ahh, well dna is just a dipshit. lol.

I hate you guys, lol...


Stop making control look bad, he never told me to blend my meals up. I started doing that myself.
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I hate you guys, lol...


Stop making control look bad, he never told me to blend my meals up. I started doing that myself.
We are not making control look bad we are making you look bad!
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We are not making control look bad we are making you look bad!

OK GOOD


you guys can make me look bad, i don't give a shit, lol.
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you guys can make me look bad, i don't give a shit, lol.
Good, because you look bad.
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Good, because you look bad.

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Next time DNA, grab some suggestions from the board before you decide to eat all your meals in one sitting You're easy to pick on - it's all in good fun.
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3 cans tuna fish, 50g whey protein, 1 banana, few strawberry's, few grapes, 1 tablespoon of EVOO

I don't make this shake that often, maybe once or twice a week
Ahahahahahaha - I digress....
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I just have a hard time believing solid meals are really that much better.I was always told that , but i cant find a convincing argument. The reason solid meals fill you up longer is because your body is still burning energy trying to digest what you have just eaten. Your body doesnt have to work as hard to break it down with a shake. I cant see how a solid meal with the exact same ingredients can be superior to a shake which will break down faster and be absorbed faster.
That's the whole point bro - you want your body to use energy digesting food - this is the mechanism that boosts your metabolism and facilitates lean muscle mass/fat loss - that alone is what makes whole food meals superior to shakes IMO...
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you are forgetting the fact that our bodies are designed to break down foods. when you take that part away there is definitely a difference. i know exactly what fog is saying. i still use shakes in my meal plan but there is certainly a difference in the way i feel after a shake with oatmeal, PB, etc.. the stomach fills up and you feel slightly bloated but somehow not as satisfied or full compared to a whole food meal.
Which is where I take the route that I *think* the GI of certain foods change based upon the consistency in which they're eaten/digested...

Just like you preach that sugars kill the goals of your diet (because you want consistent blood sugar levels) the same holds true for the GI indexes of what you eat....
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This isn't the thread is it? I can't seem to find it either way?
you talking about this? How to get rid of gyno.

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So your saying that even if the ingredients are exactly the same, the fact that its a shake, your body reacts differently? How can that be?
BECAUSE: when most people eat whey shakes, they just drink the shake down and wait for their next meal. In order NOT to feel hungry an hour later, you need some fats or some carbs taken in with it to SLOW the digestion. Which then leads to you feeling fuller longer.

Whole food meals are always better than shakes. But when people need the extra protein & cals, or are on the run, they add the shakes.

The reason you feel hungry soon after is because you need to add some fats OR carbs. Eat your shake w/ a rice cake & natty PB or 1/4c of nuts and see what happens
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BECAUSE: when most people eat whey shakes, they just drink the shake down and wait for their next meal. In order NOT to feel hungry an hour later, you need some fats or some carbs taken in with it to SLOW the digestion. Which then leads to you feeling fuller longer.

Whole food meals are always better than shakes. But when people need the extra protein & cals, or are on the run, they add the shakes.

The reason you feel hungry soon after is because you need to add some fats OR carbs. Eat your shake w/ a rice cake & natty PB or 1/4c of nuts and see what happens
Ok but why am i trying to feel full longer? Im trying to eat more, im not really worried about staying full longer and SLOWING digestion if my goal is to eat as much as possible throughout the day.
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That's the whole point bro - you want your body to use energy digesting food - this is the mechanism that boosts your metabolism and facilitates lean muscle mass/fat loss - that alone is what makes whole food meals superior to shakes IMO...
This seems ok if you are cutting, but if i was bulking wouldnt i want to SLOW my metabolism. ?
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redback you are trying to fight something simply because you want to use shakes instead of full meals. real food meals are superior, end of story.

and no, you never want to slow your metabolism. you simply need to eat more cals then your body is burning.
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redback you are trying to fight something simply because you want to use shakes instead of full meals. real food meals are superior, end of story.

and no, you never want to slow your metabolism. you simply need to eat more cals then your body is burning.
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