NCAAB - Who SHOULD win player of the year?

[SloppyJo]

I think Gay Gay Reddick will win it but I think Adam Morrison deserves it.

[SloppyJo]

Adam Morrison - 10 games with 30+ pts - 4 games with 40+ pts

[Shibby]

It's such a hard call. But Reddick has kept Duke to only 1 loss and Gonzaga has 3. Morrison is probably a more complete player. I picked Reddick since he's a senoir. Morrison will probably enter the draft early, but also Reddick has been at the top of his game for 4 years straight.

[SloppyJo]

Reddick also has a better team to play with... Reddick can have a shitty game and Duke can win, if Morrison has a shitty game, Gonzaga will lose... That's why I picked Morrison, he carries his team.

[Tinfish]

Morrison should win

Reddick will win

[rado]

Originally Posted by Tinfish

Morrison should win

Reddick will win

I say otherwise/\

[go Yankees]

I just think it's kinda interesting that two white guys, NEITHER of whom looks like a real athlete if you saw 'em on a bus, are up for player of the year...

as my co-worker said, Adam Morrison looks "deceivingly good"

[rado]

Originally Posted by go Yankees

I just think it's kinda interesting that two white guys, NEITHER of whom looks like a real athlete if you saw 'em on a bus

I could say the same about some MMA fighters. Race should not be an issue here.

[Shibby]

The PPG averarage will probably make the biggest impact on the decision.

[go Yankees]

oh I'm not saying race is an issue, it's just an observation. I think they're both flat-out dominant players. Unfortunately, race became an issue with the Steve Nash-MVP discussion, but I tuned out there

[SloppyJo]

Originally Posted by Shibby

The PPG averarage will probably make the biggest impact on the decision.

Right Now its...

A. Morrison - 28.8 ppg
JJ. Reddick - 28.7 ppg

couldn't get any closer

[Shibby]

Yesterday before Morrison played (granted Morrison was one game behind) it was Morrison 28.6 and Reddick 28.7. It's going to be a crazy race.

[Shibby]

Well Reddick broke the 3-point record tonight and he will break the ACC all time scoring record with in the next few games. I think that will have a huge impact.

[slipshady]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?s...v=ap&type=lgns

[YellowJacket]

Reddick... he plays in a real conference and doesnt get to play Portland and St. Mary's twice a year.... Morrison would be mediocre in the ACC or Big East.

[SonofBone]

Points per game don't necessarily mean anything especially if you're jacking up 50 shots/game like Allen I used to do.

I'm a UNC fan through and through, but I have to give it to Gay Gay...he is a great player. Dooks problem will be that when he has a bad game Duke will go down. The guard from Memphis shut him down and that is the way other teams should play him if possible. I know I know...easier said than done.

Also, Coach Kafaesdfasfewski should sacrifice a game or two instead of running JJ and Shewill in the ground. A lot of people are going to be dissapointed in late March when they don't have their legs.

How about Hansbrough dropping 40 on Georgia Tech the other night? Kid is a damn stud.

[Shibby]

Reddick is now Duke's all time leading scorer with 2,557 points. This record was held by his assistant head coach Johnny Dawkins for 20 years. Reddick now needs 31 more points to break the ACC all time record.

[SloppyJo]

Morrison - 29.4 ppg
Reddick - 28.9 ppg

Morrison's career-high 44 fuel No. 5 Gonzaga to win

[YellowJacket]

Originally Posted by SloppyJo

Morrison - 29.4 ppg
Reddick - 28.9 ppg

Morrison's career-high 44 fuel No. 5 Gonzaga to win

Against a very powerful Loyola Marymount team

Reddick does his scoring against ACC and top 25 teams, Morrison and the very overrated 'Zags do it against school's I didnt know had basketball teams....

Lets overview this Gonzaga 2006 schedule:

Santa Clara
St. Mary's (thats somewhere in California, right?)
Stanford
Portland
Loyola Marymount
Pepperdine
San Diego
San Francisco

Are you serious?

[SloppyJo]

Ok YJ we all know your an ACC boy and can't comprehend that someone outside your conference is actually better...

Reddick points
Daividson - 29
Drexel - 31
Valpo - 30
UNC-Green - 35
W.Forest (1-11 in Conf, 13-13 Overall - loss to DePaul???) - 32, 33
Clemson (4-8 in Conf, 15-10 Overall - loss to Elon???) - 34
Maryland (6-6 in Conf, 16-7 Overall - loss to Gonzaga(Morrison had 25)) - 35, 27
Virginia (6-6 in Conf, 13-10 Overall - loss to Gonzaga(Morrison had 27) & Fordham???) - 40
Miami (6-7 in Conf, 14-12 Overall - loss to Air Force & Temple) - 30

Let's face it, ACC is over-rated this year, they got 4 good teams - Duke, NC State, UNC, BC

Morrison had 43 against #16.Mich St, 41 against #21.Washington, 34 against #3.Memphis (Reddick only had 15 against Memphis) - Saying the Morrison would be mediocre in ACC or Big East is just plain ignorant especially when they've beaten 2 ACC teams

Morrison steps up in big games

And remember this is for the best OVERALL player - Reddick's defense needs improvement, Morrison is definatly a better defender

Reddick has had an incredible career, but we're talking about the Player of the YEAR

Morrison has better FG%, 3PT%, RPG, BPG, & LessTO - he's barely behind in STLs and ASTs

[Shibby]

You know I can't help but think about it like this. Morrison has alot of those points because he has too. Just like Kobe has too. Reddick is more like Wayde, he has more help so he dosn't need to score high every game. Dosn't mean he can't. Morrison shines standing alone and Reddick shines amongst other great talent.

[YellowJacket]

Originally Posted by SloppyJo

Ok YJ we all know your an ACC boy and can't comprehend that someone outside your conference is actually better...

Reddick points
Daividson - 29
Drexel - 31
Valpo - 30
UNC-Green - 35
W.Forest (1-11 in Conf, 13-13 Overall - loss to DePaul???) - 32, 33
Clemson (4-8 in Conf, 15-10 Overall - loss to Elon???) - 34
Maryland (6-6 in Conf, 16-7 Overall - loss to Gonzaga(Morrison had 25)) - 35, 27
Virginia (6-6 in Conf, 13-10 Overall - loss to Gonzaga(Morrison had 27) & Fordham???) - 40
Miami (6-7 in Conf, 14-12 Overall - loss to Air Force & Temple) - 30

Let's face it, ACC is over-rated this year, they got 4 good teams - Duke, NC State, UNC, BC

Morrison had 43 against #16.Mich St, 41 against #21.Washington, 34 against #3.Memphis (Reddick only had 15 against Memphis) - Saying the Morrison would be mediocre in ACC or Big East is just plain ignorant especially when they've beaten 2 ACC teams

Morrison steps up in big games

And remember this is for the best OVERALL player - Reddick's defense needs improvement, Morrison is definatly a better defender

Reddick has had an incredible career, but we're talking about the Player of the YEAR

Morrison has better FG%, 3PT%, RPG, BPG, & LessTO - he's barely behind in STLs and ASTs

I didnt even read most of that.... because.... Duke is Duke. They are a basketball dynasty, Gonzaga is good because they play no one.

And Shibby is correct..... can anyone name anyone else that plays for Gonzaga?

Domnt get my wrong, Morrison is a good player, you dont score that many points because you suck, but when it comes down to it, he's no JJ Reddick.

[SloppyJo]

Originally Posted by Shibby

You know I can't help but think about it like this. Morrison has alot of those points because he has too. Just like Kobe has too. Reddick is more like Wayde, he has more help so he dosn't need to score high every game. Dosn't mean he can't. Morrison shines standing alone and Reddick shines amongst other great talent.

I agree to a certain point but you also have to look at the flip side. Don't you think that since Duke has better players all around that they're offense is run better and more officiently and when you have a shooter like Reddick you have plays set up for him. And when he's off, other players step up to win games (Memphis for example). While Morrison is surrounded by nobody's, other teams can focus on him and try to shut him down and not have to worry about other players beating them. They're defense becomes more one-dimensional, and he still finds a way to beat them.

Reddick doesn't really have to find his shots or create shots for himself because of the talent surrounding him while Morrison has to create for himself because of the focus that's drawn to him.

It's hard to believe that Reddick isn't trying to score when he averages 17.8 FGA and 9.8 3PA a game while Morrison averages 19.1 FGA and 5.3 3PA a game.

[YellowJacket]

Originally Posted by SloppyJo