cancer sores....

[BJJ PitBull]

anyone suffer from cancer sores here? I get them regularly, and it usually is b/c i bite my lip or cheeck and then the skin opens up and forms a sore for about a week. SUcks, its painfull, puts me in a bad mood for a week.....just wondering if anyone had any home remedies to make them go away faster.

[MuscleManMatt]

sure you dont have the herp?

[hurley]

Originally Posted by BJJ PitBull

anyone suffer from cancer sores here? I get them regularly, and it usually is b/c i bite my lip or cheeck and then the skin opens up and forms a sore for about a week. SUcks, its painfull, puts me in a bad mood for a week.....just wondering if anyone had any home remedies to make them go away faster.

sure you mean canker sore not cancer?

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by hurley

sure you mean canker sore not cancer?

Damn, you contribute so much to this board.

[hurley]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Damn, you contribute so much to this board.

isnt that what the guy means though?

[Shibby]

Lets see if we can use our brains. He bites his lip or cheek, it opens into a sore, and last about a week. Does that sound like cancer or a bad habbit?

[hurley]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Lets see if we can use our brains. He bites his lip or cheek, it opens into a sore, and last about a week. Does that sound like cancer or a bad habbit?

that would be a bad HABIT.....sorry bro

[BJJ PitBull]

naw, you guys are right and wrong....it IS a form of herpes, but its not the same as oral herpes on the outside of your mouth. I dont know a lot about it but i did read that it is a form of herpes. Its not the same as when a normal person bites there lip, and it hurts, but heals....when i bite my lip it opens up into a sore and it gets worse and worse for a few days until it is a f*cking wound!!! hurts, stings, cant eat, im pissed at the world for a week.....its not b/c im biting my lip, its b/c i have a virus or something that the sore appears...theres times when one just comes w/o me biting anything.

Its been something that has happened to me regularly since i can remember but now im reading and hearing that there is a steroid shot you can get that prevents outbreaks for 6 months at a time, but the steroid also weakens your bones or something.....i thought someone else round here might know more.

[MuscleManMatt]

my girlfriend works at a gyno and explained to me that there are both type 1 and type 2 herpes. type 1 which is what you have was transmitted to you by another person. type 2 is the sexually transmitted type. both are not curable my advice would be to see your doctor to get medication that helps prevent the sores from breaking out.

[meat12]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

sure you dont have the herp?

:laughnew:

[Scrumhalf]

Here is some good information on canker sores, also called mouth ulcers. There are several remedies that at least alleviate the pain until they heal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canker_sores

[BJJ PitBull]

so i saw the doc today, and basically canker sores are not herpes according to some docs, and they are a form of herpes according to others, but it is a virus.....either way its not contagiouse, and no one knows why or how some people get canker sores. Could be an ingredient in toothpaste, could be a nutrient deficiency in iron, lysine, b-vits that triggers the sores.....in my case its mostly when i bite my lip or check, but sometimes they just come.....so she gave me this steroid paste stuff to put on it and its suppossed to speed up healing. Supplementing with B-vits, Lysine, etc. has help lots of people to lessen the sores and all that.

Im surprised no one who has replied has had canker sores before.....according to one website over 50% of the US population gets canker sores at one time or another, and a 1/4 of the population has the virus but never gets a sore.

[Scrumhalf]

I get them occasionally. My wife gets them all the time - usually more than one at the same time. The hormones in you body definitely influence them - she didn't have a single one during the time she was pregnant and then boom - they started right back up after our son was born.

[MuscleManMatt]

Originally Posted by BJJ PitBull

so i saw the doc today, and basically canker sores are not herpes according to some docs, and they are a form of herpes according to others, but it is a virus.....either way its not contagiouse, and no one knows why or how some people get canker sores. Could be an ingredient in toothpaste, could be a nutrient deficiency in iron, lysine, b-vits that triggers the sores.....in my case its mostly when i bite my lip or check, but sometimes they just come.....so she gave me this steroid paste stuff to put on it and its suppossed to speed up healing. Supplementing with B-vits, Lysine, etc. has help lots of people to lessen the sores and all that.

Im surprised no one who has replied has had canker sores before.....according to one website over 50% of the US population gets canker sores at one time or another, and a 1/4 of the population has the virus but never gets a sore.

Not contaigous? Dude I hate to question your doctor but how could she not explain to you that it indeed IS type 1 herpes. Search on the internet youll know more than your doctor. Best of luck brotha.

[BJJ PitBull]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

Not contaigous? Dude I hate to question your doctor but how could she not explain to you that it indeed IS type 1 herpes. Search on the internet youll know more than your doctor. Best of luck brotha.

I have searched the net...probably read through about 20 different sites in the last 48 hours and found some sites that say it is a form of NON contagiouse herpes, and others say it is not a form of herpes at all.....some say the sores are caused by a virus similar to but not herpes, and some doc's and websites say that they arent caused by a virus at all, but a nutrient deficiency like lysine and other stuff, some say it is hereditary and passed down to you from parents, which would make sense cuz my mom and a lot of people from her side of the family used to get them when they were younger or still get them....but i have not found anything anywhere that says it is contagiouse like type 1 herpes. Every website, dentist, doc ive talked to all say it is not contagiouse ever.

[hlcn8]

Allright, i've lived with these all my life and i hear a lot of people who don't know anything about them making dumb assumptions...
they're commonly called canker sores, but their medical term most often used is "apthous ulcer." They are NOT contagious, and no one knows if it's a genetic thing, etc. What is known is that stress contributes to them, they often grow in the place of bites and impact injuries, they commonly take 7-14 days to heal, and they're a bitch, especially if you eat an orange.
They will not spread to anyone else, my father has them regularly, my mother has never had one in her entire life and i'm positive they have at one time or another kissed.
One thing that contributes heavily to them is toothpaste that uses the ingredient "sodium-lauryl-sulphate" (i KNOW i spelled that wrong). Most toothpaste brands use this ingredient, and not using it can cause a significant reduction in occurrences. I personally prefer using Zilactin-B on apthous ulcers, it will make your eyes tear with pain upon application, but it creates a think protective film for several hours that let's you live in peace.
It's not herpes! I had these long before I had ever kissed a girl!

[MuscleManMatt]

Heres info directly from my girlfriends doctor that she works for:

there are two types of herpes, type 1 and type 2, type 1 is typically on your mouth and type 2 is typicall on the genitals- even though it can be reversed---if someone has a cold sore on their mouth- and gives someone oral sex, they can get sores on there genitals- type 1 is normall considered non-sexually transmitted because its usually referring to sores on the mouth and lots of people get them but they can still be passed to the genitals and there very contagious

Be sure to go online and get all your medical information from insignificant sources. not to be a complete dick but you guys are completely WRONG if i was in your position i would see another doctor.

[coffee-guy]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

Heres info directly from my girlfriends doctor that she works for:

there are two types of herpes, type 1 and type 2, type 1 is typically on your mouth and type 2 is typicall on the genitals- even though it can be reversed---if someone has a cold sore on their mouth- and gives someone oral sex, they can get sores on there genitals- type 1 is normall considered non-sexually transmitted because its usually referring to sores on the mouth and lots of people get them but they can still be passed to the genitals and there very contagious

Be sure to go online and get all your medical information from insignificant sources. not to be a complete dick but you guys are completely WRONG if i was in your position i would see another doctor.

STFU

[BJJ PitBull]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

Heres info directly from my girlfriends doctor that she works for:

there are two types of herpes, type 1 and type 2, type 1 is typically on your mouth and type 2 is typicall on the genitals- even though it can be reversed---if someone has a cold sore on their mouth- and gives someone oral sex, they can get sores on there genitals- type 1 is normall considered non-sexually transmitted because its usually referring to sores on the mouth and lots of people get them but they can still be passed to the genitals and there very contagious

Be sure to go online and get all your medical information from insignificant sources. not to be a complete dick but you guys are completely WRONG if i was in your position i would see another doctor.

i dont know bro, i appreciate your input and your trying to help but even if i try all day long i will find nothing from any doctor, website or dentist that concurs with what you g/f says....i dont think you are understanding the difference between cold sores and canker sores.

I understand what you are saying about type 1 and type 2 herpes but i dont think you are hearing me when i say that there is no proof that canker sores are a result of herpes.....you are making reference about cold sores on someones mouth and youre not understanding that cold sores are ON the mouth and canker sores are IN the mouth.....they arent the same thing and arent caused by the same thing.

I dont wanna be a dick either but i think i will believe my doc, my dentist, and the nearly 48 hours worth of research on the internet ive done over what your g/f says.

[hlcn8]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

Heres info directly from my girlfriends doctor that she works for:

there are two types of herpes, type 1 and type 2, type 1 is typically on your mouth and type 2 is typicall on the genitals- even though it can be reversed---if someone has a cold sore on their mouth- and gives someone oral sex, they can get sores on there genitals- type 1 is normall considered non-sexually transmitted because its usually referring to sores on the mouth and lots of people get them but they can still be passed to the genitals and there very contagious

Be sure to go online and get all your medical information from insignificant sources. not to be a complete dick but you guys are completely WRONG if i was in your position i would see another doctor.

HAHAHAHAHA, i have a similar source of information as you... the source of information i have is from my baby's mama's uncle's nephew's idiot cousin who rides the short bus...

Two entirely different things, i know the focus is on herpes, since we're all worried about STD's, but that was really indicative of your willingness to assign something from a source to whom YOU gave insufficient information, and then say "be sure to get all your medical information from insignificant sources."

It's not the dr. at fault (as you mentioned seeing another dr.), but no one can diagnose when they're given the wrong information. tell you what, ask your g/f's dr. about "apthous ulcers" and see what he says, provided you're not talking to a proctologist, as your head seems to be stuck up in your ass.

i know that sounds really offensive, but you know what? you'd be offended too if you had a harmless (and seemingly genetically transferred) condition that jackasses around the world scream "herpes" about.

you said "not to be a complete dick..." go ahead and re-analyze that closing comment yourself.

and for the record, and not just because i'm refuting what you said, if people don't know what they're talking about they shouldn't speak. you have two ears and ONE mouth for a reason. You don't hear me spouting off on what AAS's to use, because i don't know shit about them.

i'm a little perturbed about this, and i don't want to sound like i'm slamming you, but i know, essentially, i am. and i see this in a lot of other posts as well. i know there are lots of you that feel you have a lot of information to give, but be careful about the disinformation you spread, and the damage it can cause.

[hlcn8]

BTW, i've looked for where i read it from, and haven't yet found the source (medical journal of some sort - i'll post it as soon as i can find it for you), but it stated that a lack of B-vitamins increases the frequency of apthous ulcers. if you find it helps to take heavy doses of vitamin b, please let me know as i might then try it myself!

[MuscleManMatt]

hey i have an idea lets all get on the bandwagon and flame me for trying to help out! gee i thought maybe someone who works in the medical profession of STD's might have a clue about herpes guess i was wrong. personally i dont give a shit. i thought this was a public board in which everyone is entitled to "have an opinion" guess my information wasnt what anyone wanted to hear let alone consider. also hey foghat you helped me out so much regarding my posts in the past and you write "STFU" nice bro most appreciated. hcln8 like what you wrote actually bothers me i dont take any shit someone writes online to heart its a fuckin online forum. hope things work out for the best for you and your sores my dont take that personally.

[coffee-guy]

Originally Posted by MuscleManMatt

hey i have an idea lets all get on the bandwagon and flame me for trying to help out! gee i thought maybe someone who works in the medical profession of STD's might have a clue about herpes guess i was wrong. personally i dont give a shit. i thought this was a public board in which everyone is entitled to "have an opinion" guess my information wasnt what anyone wanted to hear let alone consider. also hey foghat you helped me out so much regarding my posts in the past and you write "STFU" nice bro most appreciated. hcln8 like what you wrote actually bothers me i dont take any shit someone writes online to heart its a fuckin online forum. hope things work out for the best for you and your sores my dont take that personally.

Hey bro -

I tell lot's of people to STFU on a daily basis. You were just beating a dead horse. Don't take it to heart. I still help other people that run their mouths too much. This whole thing is not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be...

I am going to hold my breath until this thread gets locked for its sillyness - I'm sure it won't be long so I should live if anyone cares ....

[MuscleManMatt]

Hey man I just felt that the information i was giving was helpfull. Hahaha trust me i dont want to make a big deal about who knows more about sores. I was on the phone with her, noticed the post, asked her a question and posted the info i got. to me the information sounded logical and worth posting however the way i may have worded it may have not been so great my fault there.

[swampwood]

Canker sores.. One of the quickest cures is a menthol, camfor ointment. A good brand thats good for lots of medical uses is... Watkins.