so fed up with this shit

[the art of war]

Legit insomnia is one of the worst damn things in the world - I got a ton of shit to do tomorrow and I can't catch a wink even though I am absolutely dead burned tired. Honestly wouldn't wish this on anyone, I don't know what to do about it either. It's gotten less and less frequent and therapy twice a week has helped me a lot - that being said anyone who suffers from it knows that it just takes a two day stint of sleepless nights to ruin a week, and sabotage hours you have spent training. I'm always sore these days after sleepless nights. I have gone to sleep specialists - one thing I know is that I have some problem where I will stop to breathe for a minute or so and it wakes me up gasping and fucking sweating bullets. I forget the name for it but I've tried a few things for it so far - right now I have some damn mouth guard type thing I'm wearing that is meant to work. My bad for the rant but I am fucking fed up and any advice would be hugely appreciated - I've tried everything natural I can think of , most nights I take melatonin and when I sleep it gives me much deeper sleep. I'm prescribed ambien and clonazepam, i steer away from kpins because of my personality, but even if i take one AND an ambien on nights like this it won't put me out. Does anyone have experience with any gaba based supps for sleeping ?

[Chadd77]

I struggle with that as well bro. Not as bad as you but still struggle. Are you on AAS right now? Man oh man that will do it. I haven’t been on in some time and that has made the biggest difference. Obviously tren is a no no but even test would keep me up at night. Lots of times all night. Have you tried Somatomax? I take that every night and it helps me stay asleep. If you have trouble falling asleep it may not help but it defiantly has helped me not wake up as much. Hope you get it under control soon.

[THE BOUNCER]

all i know is, you need to thank me for talking you out of using tren. would have been the end of you.

[toothache]

Sounds like you have sleep apnea if you stop breathing during sleep. You need a cpap machine. Insurance will pay for it.

[dna9488]

Originally Posted by toothache

Sounds like you have sleep apnea if you stop breathing during sleep. You need a cpap machine. Insurance will pay for it.

yup +1

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by Chadd77

I struggle with that as well bro. Not as bad as you but still struggle. Are you on AAS right now? Man oh man that will do it. I haven’t been on in some time and that has made the biggest difference. Obviously tren is a no no but even test would keep me up at night. Lots of times all night. Have you tried Somatomax? I take that every night and it helps me stay asleep. If you have trouble falling asleep it may not help but it defiantly has helped me not wake up as much. Hope you get it under control soon.

Haven't tried it - I am on my last week of cyp right now bro. Will def give it a whirl

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

all i know is, you need to thank me for talking you out of using tren. would have been the end of you.

indeed , thank you brother.

Originally Posted by toothache

Sounds like you have sleep apnea if you stop breathing during sleep. You need a cpap machine. Insurance will pay for it.

yeah that's what it is - i had forgotten the name - i just remembered regie white died from it i believe.

[the art of war]

shit is out of fucking hand. I'm going to punch the living piss out of my bed until i collapse.

[Chadd77]

When is the last time you have been off everything? Drugs, alcohol, nicotine, AAS, etc.?

[the art of war]

shit bro, 11 years roughly.

[Chadd77]

Originally Posted by the art of war

shit bro, 11 years roughly.

To completely understand why you are not sleeping you need to come off everything. How do you know it is not being caused by something you’re putting into your body? Probably not the answer you’re looking for but think it is the first place to start.

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by Chadd77

To completely understand why you are not sleeping you need to come off everything. How do you know it is not being caused by something you’re putting into your body? Probably not the answer you’re looking for but think it is the first place to start.

started when I was a lot younger w/waking up gasping - then around 10 fucking insomnia was brutal , 1-2 years later was when I started doing shit on a daily basis.

Don't get me wrong brother, I think that what you are saying is certainly the most logical thought at this point, because I honestly have tried just a bout anything I know of. I don't know if I can part ways with the gear right now, that's just the frank truth of it. I appreciate your responses, my call now how to handle it. thx bro.

[THE BOUNCER]

sounds like a case of gayness.

[the art of war]

been talking to your faggot ass and listening to you too much I guess, bound to rub off sooner or later

[bigscott]

go and sign up for a sleep lab bro -- you have sleep apnea !!!!!

i need to use a bipap machine everynight my apnea is so severe !! my doc tld me people with apnea as bad as mine are 400 to 500 lbs .. i could have 5 different painful surgery's to help but would still need a machine


sleep apnea kills 20 thousand people every year

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by bigscott

go and sign up for a sleep lab bro -- you have sleep apnea !!!!!

i need to use a bipap machine everynight my apnea is so severe !! my doc tld me people with apnea as bad as mine are 400 to 500 lbs .. i could have 5 different painful surgery's to help but would still need a machine


sleep apnea kills 20 thousand people every year

yeah I officially got freaked out dude - 23rd i go in... im not fucking around with this shit.