Straight men doing gay porn?

[rude]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Pecster, I couldn't have imagined getting a better explination. A few others thought it was weird that I was interested. I personaly don't get affraid, scared, a blind eye or what ever you want to call to things that I don't know. I actually get very Bi-curious. I just have one question about something near the end. You talked about straight guys having a gay guy in his ass. How common is this. Do more of the straight guys leave it at oral or only THEM doing another guy?

I knew it

[Shibby]

a funnee won u r

[JUICE]

Originally Posted by rude

I knew it

[Pheonix782]

Originally Posted by pecster

And Pheonix782, your friends have really expensive tastes!

Hey it was screwing a goat! I mean I see where you're coming from as far as everything BUT at the same time the situation you describe is one of desperation. When we have people doing these things that are out of character or against their morals and ethics then it becomes desperation. When a pro has to do this in order to keep himself in drugs, is there an addiction present? When a guy goes into the industry only wanting to do straight porn, then sacrifices down to mastubating alone and being distributed on a gay series. Then says I need more money and sacrifices down to hand jobs by a man, then actual blow jobs, then giving anal then receiving anal then anything, all for the love of money, or moreover just to pay for his stack cycle and post cycle; I really raise an eye to the reasons.

I applaud people for making a way in their lives in order to make it through all the crap they are in, but at one point you need to evaluate the situation, Am I still doing this for the reasons I started? and have I crossed the line that I put down to never cross? If you are crossing the line, has the situation become worse or more dire? Just an FYI for the pros, there is a point where the body says no more muscle being built here. Or better I have to take all this stuff now just to maintain what I've gained. If these are things they are dealing with, a reevaluation is necessary bc they are endangering themselves.

I have not taken any gear and though I've considered it, I'm at a point in my life where I really can't afford to buy any. Sure I'd be thrilled to go through a cycle and get seriously jacked and cut and look like the guy every girl gets wet for. However, I don't have $1,400 to drop on these supposed real cycles you find on-line, or know anyone that really deals the real stuff and not pushing pro-hormones as real stuff. But like pecster said AAS use for pros is sometimes needed and I'm sure it's expensive for some things that people "need", but the big thing is is what we are giving up for this one thing worth what we are getting elsewhere? If that was the case and I was in the position of those pro's I would say re-evaluate the situation and do something bc the longer you wait the harder it is to stop or turn around. <---and that goes for a lot of things in life btw.

Peace!
Pheonix782

[pecster]

Pheonix, thanks for the thought provoking response. I have to agree with you that selling your body for gear (or for money for exisiting because you purchased same) is not a healthy way to live (I would think) emotionally, spiritually and physically (or selling it at all for anything, but it's gear we're essentially dealing with here). Still, I can't judge anyone's motives or actions; we each have our own agendas and coping/rationalizing mechanisms that help us accept the consequences of our actions.

But we have to wonder what causes that behavior. No one would do it without a perverse and insistent need to do so. Could that be the highly unusual mindset of bodybuilding/bodybuilders today that insists that the highest level of competitors be ever-huger -- huger despite the money, the time, the COST, the DANGER? If so, how long will this condition continue? How many lives have to be compromised before things change? Time is a continuum where what WAS is no longer acceptable. What IS and IS TO COME is all that counts. We can never return to the (to me, more aesthetically attractive) days of Frank Zane, or even some of the larger men in the early- to mid-80s. How can the bodybuilding demi-monde go back to that when they've seen what a human body IS capable of?

Until gear is made affordable or legal, the guys set on being the biggest and best really have no other alternative. I say that because everyone knows that there IS a market for these "perfect physical specimens" in a certain segment of the gay community. The bodybuilders know this, the bodybuilders have the commodity the money men want, and they're willing to do what it takes to get the money.

I have to add here that, a bit contrary to your possible assumptions, Pheonix, these athletes don't NECESSARILY give it ALL up for these sugar daddies. The two parties make contact and work out what will and will not be done By whom and TO whom. Lots of times (dare I say the majority), all that is required is muscle worship -- no actually sex takes place. That's not to say that sex DOESN'T occur -- it does -- but an act that ends up with the big guy getting plugged from behind by the customer is so rare as to be non-existent.

All that is to say that, with or without the sexual act, it doesn't diminish an individual who's addiction (good call there, Pheonix) requires him to do this. It's just pitifully sad that the requirement is there at all.

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by Shibby

I know that sounds wierd. I thought the same thing when I first heard it. I was watching a preview for a HBO documentary, called Pornucopia. It's a look behind the porn industry. During the commercial, a guy said he was straight and does gay porn. I'm wondering how this is possible. If he is really straight I wouldn't think you can get arroused by men and gay activities.

the god of porn, john holmes did a gay porno, i think it was actually a male threesome....i'm pretty sure he only did one and it was after the 50,000 chicks he banged on film but he was drugged up on coke or heroin or something like that and couldn't get any of the hot top of the line porn chicks to work with him, and he needed the money for the drugs so he went and did the porn

whether he was giving AND recieving.....i dont know all about that.....i think recieving would be pretty gay....giving for a million dollars......if i shot up some heroin, snorted some coke, and smoked a little bud, it MIGHT not be THAT gay





but it'd still be pretty gay in hindsight

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by Taylor

the god of porn, john holmes did a gay porno, i think it was actually a male threesome....i'm pretty sure he only did one and it was after the 50,000 chicks he banged on film but he was drugged up on coke or heroin or something like that and couldn't get any of the hot top of the line porn chicks to work with him, and he needed the money for the drugs so he went and did the porn

whether he was giving AND recieving.....i dont know all about that.....i think recieving would be pretty gay....giving for a million dollars......if i shot up some heroin, snorted some coke, and smoked a little bud, it MIGHT not be THAT gay



but it'd still be pretty gay in hindsight

that sounded kinda immature i guess...

but the moral was that i think some straight men do it for other reasons...to support drugs habits, maybe they just straight up need the money which is probably right in most cases

plus some straight men who are on drugs obviously aren't in the right frame of mind