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Cycles for the Newbie

by TheMudMan

Here is a person that I feel is ready to run their first cycle. A person that has reached at least the age 21 (IMO 25 is a better age), has their diet and training in check, and has also researched enough about AAS to not have to ask all the "newbie questions. Remember this is your body and these drugs that you're ingesting and injecting have both good and bad side effects.

Here are some cycles to consider for a first time user of AAS. All cycles should be based off of test. But before jumping into one of these cycles please do your research. Remember with the good comes the bad. The bad being side effects from the use of AAS. I will not go into them here but if you do your homework you will know what sides you may see and how to avoid them.

I’m a firm believer in starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. This will allow more then enough time to get blood levels peaked. Also, I would also suggest running a SERM (Nolvadex) and AI (arimidex, proviron, femera) together through the cycle.

These are just a few of the many combinations of compounds that can be used in a first cycle. I feel that D-bol, EQ, and Winny are all very good to add to a first cycle to help things along but they are not necessary. I also feel that a long acting ester test is best for a first or even a second cycle. The reason is because of the amount of injections that are required by SUS, Prop, and Suspension.

Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 2:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 3:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 4:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 5:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 6:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 7:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
11 – 12 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 8:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
11 – 13 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 9:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 10:
1 – 12 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 400mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 weeks after last Cyp / Enan injection

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

Cycle 12:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
8 – 13 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose
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Excellent info. Got anything good for the girls?
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Bouncer what do you think about this anti-e's 2 weeks before cycle?
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Bouncer what do you think about this anti-e's 2 weeks before cycle?
It is definitely a good way to prevent any sides before they start. At the same time, it will probably kill some of the gaines.
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Thats interesting, notable is the big emphasis on anti e in both SERM and AI's. Big time PCT also, with clomid and even Tribulus.

Very interesting
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Thats interesting, notable is the big emphasis on anti e in both SERM and AI's. Big time PCT also, with clomid and even Tribulus.

Very interesting
Yeah i think its going a step to far myself
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Yeah i think its going a step to far myself
it is a way to prevent new people from growing tits and many of the sides from AAS. I would agree though that it may be a little to much.
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I've used Trib before...Good post...14 cycles...lol...
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what is l-dex ???????????
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what is l-dex ???????????
l-dex, aka Armidex. Arimidex (Anastrozole)
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exemestane seems better health wise ? especially with nolva ?

am i right ?
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exemestane seems better health wise ? especially with nolva ?

am i right ?
everything has its negatives and positives. nolvadex has a higher risk of blood clots. i like arimidex best.
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