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Old 02-07-04, 12:15 PM
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question about 1 AD

hi everybody, i have been thinking about taking some pro-hormones for quite some time now...but kinda afraid of side effects. I heard 1 AD is really good to take, but heard some negative things about it. Does anybody know of any good pro-hormones that wont convert into estrogen, not hurt your liver, and just not really mess you up at all.
If anybody can tell me some info on certain pro-hormones products it will be appreciated.

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Old 02-07-04, 12:24 PM
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All have risks. 1-ad and m-1t are good for not aromataseing into estrogen - but there is a rebound effect. How old are you and how long have you been training??? This is a good site for doing research about how to use this stuff and what the sides are. Train hard and get your diet right first - then look into this stuff.... that is my best suggestion.
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Old 02-07-04, 12:46 PM
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Look for something 1-test. It bypasses liver and rarely is related to sides.

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yeh, ive heard 1-ad and m1t are the best for oral ph's. if youre really worried about aromatization get some Nolva. ive never used Nolva but people on this board told me it was the shit.
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i did a 6 week cycle of 1-ad at 300mgs a day... got a very good pump and increased strength.. Very good for gettin ripped which make you look bigger but i didnt seem to gain any weight on the scale which was slightly disappointing..

Side Effects i felt: Decreased libido, cramps once in a while, and sometimes the pump would be soo hard it would hurt to flex im not exactly sure why..

Next up cycle for me S1+ or M1T...
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Old 02-08-04, 10:27 PM
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well i have been training for over a year now, and i have a healthy diet, and drink over a gallon of water a day. I just want to know if 1-AD would not hurt my liver and not convert into estrogen...if anybody knows more about it please reply. Does it convert to estrogen?
can it give you man boobs?
can it hurt your liver badly? if so
and if i take milk thistle with it not hurt my liver then.

all replys are appreciated
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im 20 years old
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Old 02-09-04, 09:25 AM
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You will be fine. The sides are not bad at all. You probably will not even notice. If it were me I would go with t-1, t-1pro or s1+. Way more bang for your buck. The best bet would be go to power nutrtion and get t-1 pro and a bottle of nolvadex.
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Old 02-10-04, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by mattrix24
well i have been training for over a year now, and i have a healthy diet, and drink over a gallon of water a day. I just want to know if 1-AD would not hurt my liver and not convert into estrogen...if anybody knows more about it please reply. Does it convert to estrogen?
can it give you man boobs?
can it hurt your liver badly? if so
and if i take milk thistle with it not hurt my liver then.

all replys are appreciated
thanks
im 20 years old
yeh, speedracers right. 1-AD, while good, isnt the most powerful legal PH out there. but remember that everyones body is different. if you have a history of liver problems in your family then maybe you should consider something else.
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Old 02-14-04, 02:34 PM
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i upped dose for 1 ad to 2 pills 3 times daly got me pretty big but i did get the estrogen affect, but nolva and 6 oxo might help> gl tho i went from 240 - 270 with 1 ad stacked with universals N0X3
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Old 02-14-04, 04:28 PM
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i went from 240 - 270 with 1 ad stacked with universals N0X3
wow, nice gains.
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Old 02-14-04, 06:04 PM
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thanks dude i was pretty suprised, i just ordered the methal 1 test and im pretty excited to start that also, im gona stack it with n0x3 again ill let you know about my gains, i want to get to about 295 im so pumped
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Old 02-23-04, 07:04 PM
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i went to power nutrition and searched for t1 pro btu i cant find it. who makes it or what should i search for? thanks
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Old 02-24-04, 11:34 AM
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i went to power nutrition and searched for t1 pro btu i cant find it. who makes it or what should i search for? thanks
Actually now I believe you can just make your own. It is easy and you can tell them exactly what you want and they will build it for you.
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