Question on Vitargo

[Stonecold54]

This may be dumb but its not clear to me. Is in an actual carb, that will replace lost muscle gylcogen as well as the liver? or it strictly a creatine transport system. They just make it seem like its a post workout drink that is a transport system. or is it just a really low glycemic index carb so that is why it doesn't spike insulin after drinking it? do any of these questions makes sense, lol.

[THE BOUNCER]

it is a waxy maize starch. it replaces muscle glycogen and transports things like creatine faster then say dextrose or malto.

this explains a little more.

Waxy Maize Starch is derived from natural corn starch and is a food grade modified starch. It is very bland in flavor and has a white fluffy like consistency.

So what makes so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Waxy Maize Starch has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean? Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.

WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.

WMS has the ability to replenish the body's glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS's ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS's ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.

Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS's popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate.

[Alin]

Originally Posted by Stonecold54

This may be dumb but its not clear to me. Is in an actual carb, that will replace lost muscle gylcogen as well as the liver? or it strictly a creatine transport system. They just make it seem like its a post workout drink that is a transport system. or is it just a really low glycemic index carb so that is why it doesn't spike insulin after drinking it? do any of these questions makes sense, lol.

Ive been using waxy maize for awhile now and have to say i like it well.

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by Alin

Ive been using waxy maize for awhile now and have to say i like it well.

yeah I have been using it for over a year now and these questions just came up, lol

Bouncer...thanks, that makes sense.

[sammy48]

Bouncer , do you follow the mixing instruction and do you use Vitargo post work-out only.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by sammy48

Bouncer , do you follow the mixing instruction and do you use Vitargo post work-out only.

i kind of follow my own instructions. i use a scoop and a half vitargo with 2 scoops whey. i put it in a big cup and as soon as i get in my car after my workout i add water and mix with a fork.

[bigscott]

since they changed the formula of vitargo i cannot take it -- fucks up my stomach - had to go back to malto -- original vitargo was so much better

[ROCKILLER]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i kind of follow my own instructions. i use a scoop and a half vitargo with 2 scoops whey. i put it in a big cup and as soon as i get in my car after my workout i add water and mix with a fork.

you know shaker cups are only like $3 from all sports

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by bigscott

since they changed the formula of vitargo i cannot take it -- fucks up my stomach - had to go back to malto -- original vitargo was so much better

are you talking about how its really really powdery now? like when you open the lid the powder pretty much floats around the room? lol. I have noticed in the last 2 batches that something seems different with it myself. It seems a tab more bitter also. Whats the deal?

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKILLER

you know shaker cups are only like $3 from all sports

have you ever used vitargo? the shit will cement itself to the bottom. a shaker cup aint doing it.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

are you talking about how its really really powdery now? like when you open the lid the powder pretty much floats around the room? lol. I have noticed in the last 2 batches that something seems different with it myself. It seems a tab more bitter also. Whats the deal?

they changed the formula. its very powdery now.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

have you ever used vitargo? the shit will cement itself to the bottom. a shaker cup aint doing it.

LOL. follow the directions bro! you must add the V to the water not water to the V. I mix up my protien and shake then open the shaker and add in the V and shake again works perfect.

[ROCKILLER]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

have you ever used vitargo? the shit will cement itself to the bottom. a shaker cup aint doing it.

I put my protein in the shaker, then the vitargo. when I'm ready I pour the water in, shake it for a bit and pound it. No cementing. Do you sip your PWO drink over time? Maybe thats the problem.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

they changed the formula. its very powdery now.

yea, what the fuck. why? taste different also. makes me think that the formula wasn't correct before. maybe the starch was wrong or something. or maybe they are cheaping out now and making a shitty version.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKILLER

I put my protein in the shaker, then the vitargo. when I'm ready I pour the water in, shake it for a bit and pound it. No cementing. Do you sip your PWO drink over time? Maybe thats the problem.

i drink it on the way home. mix it with a fork and big cup. works fine for me.

[ROCKILLER]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i drink it on the way home. mix it with a fork and big cup. works fine for me.

Its just a funny picture in my head. Some big dude in hammer pants getting into his car and mixing up some drink with a fork.

whatever works for you though

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKILLER

Its just a funny picture in my head. Some big dude in hammer pants getting into his car and mixing up some drink with a fork.

whatever works for you though

umm, i wear overalls with work boots to the gym thank you very much.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

yea, what the fuck. why? taste different also. makes me think that the formula wasn't correct before. maybe the starch was wrong or something. or maybe they are cheaping out now and making a shitty version.

LOL I have always thought thoes suplement companys are shaddy bro! I only drink that stuff cuzz you recomended it! so I hold you responsable!lol. just messin around

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

LOL I have always thought thoes suplement companys are shaddy bro! I only drink that stuff cuzz you recomended it! so I hold you responsable!lol. just messin around

I agree I like the new formula but I wonder what the hell the differerence is, lol....

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

are you talking about how its really really powdery now? like when you open the lid the powder pretty much floats around the room? lol. I have noticed in the last 2 batches that something seems different with it myself. It seems a tab more bitter also. Whats the deal?

yup -- it fuck s my stomach up now -- not sure why they changed it

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

yea, what the fuck. why? taste different also. makes me think that the formula wasn't correct before. maybe the starch was wrong or something. or maybe they are cheaping out now and making a shitty version.

the original version was the best -- oh well sometimes change is good - sometimes it sucks and this time it sucks