What are you guys using these days?

[YellowJacket]

Been out of the loop on the boards but not in the supplement world...so whats popular? What are you guys using?

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by YellowJacket

Been out of the loop on the boards but not in the supplement world...so whats popular? What are you guys using?

fish oil (thx MrI knee feels better)
multi
glucosamine / msm
CEE
finally switched from arginine powder to Vassive NO which is a solid product
milk thistle
cranberry extract
liv52

I don't take any of the legal fatburners because frankly they all make me feel like shit. If anything I'll get baby aspirin and make my own ECA so i can get the dose I like and it's still very affective.

as far as prohormones etc .. ever since 1 test was banned (which was as I am sure you know an actual steroid) - it's really gone to shit...
90% of PH's now are a clone of a clone of a clone 17aa extremely toxic. The popular ones are havoc:

"Q: What do you think of Havoc? Is this steroid really potent and safe at the same time?

Mepitiostane Chemical StructureA: Havoc (2alpha,3alpha-epithio-17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androstan-17beta-ol) is a methylated derivative of a Japanese anabolic/anti-estrogenic steroid called mepitiostane (Thioderon). As such, it would be most appropriate to call this steroid Meth-epitiostane. Methepitiosane was first described in 1966, so it is technically not a new drug. It was assayed for anabolic and androgenic effect according to the standard animal administration experiments, and was show to display a much stronger tendency for anabolic (as compared to androgenic) actions. It was indeed determined to be a favorable steroid as far as reduced androgenicity was concerned, but never made it much further than that. The drug sat in research obscurity for a long time. That is until the modern “gold rush” for unknown anabolic steroids that could be sold (albeit less than legally) on the sports nutrition market. Havoc is one of the latest and most talked about additions to this group of “grey area” drugs.

Havoc does have a few things going for it; at least as far as finding a “mild” steroid goes. For a given level of anabolic effectiveness (dose), you should notice less oily skin/acne, and will be less likely to shed hair if you are thinning, than you would with many other drugs. You are also not going to have problems with gyno, and the drug may even help to block this if your estrogen levels are a little high naturally or from other substances. But one must not mistake mildness in terms of androgenicity to mean mildness in terms of health risks. Some are mistakenly assuming that Havoc is both less toxic to your liver, and less damaging to your cholesterol, than other oral steroids, and there is nothing to suggest this is true, especially since no investigations into the heath risks of methepitiostane have ever been conducted. We do know that liver toxicity is directly tied to the steroid’s potency and resistance to liver breakdown. Given that methepitiostane is both potent and c-17alpha alkylated, a sufficient level of liver toxicity is assumed. The strongest shifts in HDL/LDL cholesterol are also seen with oral c-17 alpha alkylated steroids; so again, methepitiostane is likely to present some notable concerns here. The bottom line, Havoc is a potent yet mild (weakly androgenic) steroid, but it is still an alkylated oral. It should carry the expected liver and cardiovascular risks of other drugs of this class. Keep this in mind and you should be fine.

By the way, it is of note that there are versions of both of the drugs discussed above sold with packaging that carries Japanese characters on it. This gives them a very “imported” look, and one might think they actually come from Japan. This is, in fact, just a product of creative (probably smart and effective) marketing. Both of these anabolic steroids (all known commercial versions) are actually being bottled for sale in the United States."

personally I loved m1t but would never waste a nickle on these new PH's.

[ROCKETW19]

NO shotgun untill it runs out. I still havnt found a product that will give me "the pump" everone talks about. I feel the Beta Alnine tingle but I still get the lactic acid burn on certain exercizes.
I belive the onle suplement that works for me is test E,lol

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

NO shotgun untill it runs out. I still havnt found a product that will give me "the pump" everone talks about. I feel the Beta Alnine tingle but I still get the lactic acid burn on certain exercizes.
I belive the onle suplement that works for me is test E,lol

I love how I argue w/people on other forums who are like 14-15 about to run 3 oral PH's and they are like "it's only a half a molecule away from tren or whatever" - oxygen and water are a half molecule apart LOL!

[Konitz]

White flood
Whey Protein
Multi-Vitamin
Fish Oil
Zinc
Vitamin A

[ROCKILLER]

Other than protein, a multi and fish oil I have been using Vassive NO

I like the fact that they actually tell you how much caffeine is in it, unlike NO Xplod. Also, it doesnt make me feel all ragged and worn out after my workout.

[dna9488]

I am using Fish Oil, Whey Protein, Kirkland Multi-Vitamin, and Malto-dextrin

[liftsiron]

GLUTAMINE!!!

Just joking CEE, whey protein powder, muscle milk various vitamins and minerals, green tea ex, saw palmetto and N-actyl cystine.

[YellowJacket]

^^ Dick

Looks good!

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by dna9488

I am using Fish Oil, Whey Protein, Kirkland Multi-Vitamin, and Malto-dextrin

what he said ^

[Gator_Mclusky]

I just eat. I eat big.
If I were to take any supps it would be Whey Protein and Creatine but Id rather eat and gain.
Works for me.

gator

[the art of war]

Originally Posted by Gator_Mclusky

I just eat. I eat big.
If I were to take any supps it would be Whey Protein and Creatine but Id rather eat and gain.
Works for me.

gator

you dont have shakes post workout even ? Theres a dude at my gym who straight up brings mashed potatoes and chicken / steak - finishes lifting sprints to his car and starts the process lol.

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by the art of war

you dont have shakes post workout even ? Theres a dude at my gym who straight up brings mashed potatoes and chicken / steak - finishes lifting sprints to his car and starts the process lol.

NONE! Depending on if Im cutting or bulking Ill usually go to a restaurant and get a 12 oz Salmon fillet w/ no butter and mixed Veggies(no salt) or Ill get a Sirloin or Fillet Mignon with garlic mashed potatoes if I grab a bite with a training padna.

No supplemeents and Im happy at 5'9" 220 and will be 240 in a few months. Thats now.

When I was trying to pack it on I used Gainers Fuel 1000 cal drinks and Creatine. It worked and I cant argue with results.

I think all supplements are over rated and believe a good eating habit of at least 4-6 meals a day is perfect. I dont even take a vitamin and every 4 months, my blood work comes back just fine.

To each their own though........

gator

[the art of war]

you're living in the right place bro!

[Alin]

Originally Posted by YellowJacket

Been out of the loop on the boards but not in the supplement world...so whats popular? What are you guys using?

I'm leary of most new obver hyped supplements. I like the time proven ones. CREATINE, WHEY, MULTI VITAMIN/MINERAL

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by YellowJacket

Been out of the loop on the boards but not in the supplement world...so whats popular? What are you guys using?

Thats a trick question you said you are not outta the loop in the sup world but ask us whats popular?

I actuall dont use sups cuz i dont trust them, But if you have some secretes spill it bro I like to take something even if it dont work it gives me a mental thing.

[bigscott]

hey yj , long time brother

supps -

arginine
green tea ex
bcaas
beta alinine
whole food vit
saw pal

few other things -

so whats new and worth spending money on these days bro

[jack tors]

bigscott can you recommend a brand for the whole food vit