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HeavyLineBacker · #1 09-21-03, 02:46 PM

any one ever try this together and kno if it works...

bighitz · #2 09-21-03, 02:48 PM

im not big on promoting because everyone has different opinions,, when i first used this stack together i lost about 10 pounds and increased my bench by about 50lbs and that no bullshit,,, my muscles felt like they always had a pump.. but ill be the first one say that nitrotech tastes like shit!!! the kids kept on being dropped of in the pool

HeavyLineBacker · #3 09-21-03, 02:52 PM

really^wow cuz i was thinkin about using them but i wanted other peoples opinions on it first. thanks alot

bighitz · #4 09-21-03, 04:09 PM

hey no prob i would suggest using the fruit punch creatine for cell tech and try the vanilla for nitrotech

HeavyLineBacker · #5 09-21-03, 06:49 PM

what u mix it with water? i mix my chocolate isopure with milk...

bighitz · #6 09-21-03, 07:22 PM

ya i mixed the nitrotech with both milk and water

HeavyLineBacker · #7 09-21-03, 09:04 PM

cool ... how long did it take to lose the weight cuz what happened to u is exactly what i want to do

MuGGsy · #8 09-22-03, 12:59 AM

not that either celltech or nitrotech are bad products, but you are getting really ripped off at the price they charge....I personally steer clear of anything muscletech, it's a ripoff.

cookmic5 · #9 09-22-03, 02:33 PM

ditto on that. But I'm not affraid to call muscletech out. IMO muscletech is mostly overpriced overhyped crap. After you've been around for a while and looked around at other co's prices and products you'll see that muscletech just doesn't hold up. They seem to care more about placing 5 page adds in health mags than producing an affordable top grade product.

For example, you could get the same or better results as cell tech by combining creatine monohydrate and dextrose in your protein shake and supplementing with some ALA, you'll also notice the taste is a lot better, and the price is a lot lower.

Celltech is selling 4.3 lbs for $38 at dps and Nitrotech at $50 for 4lbs! that's $88, and it probably won't last a month! on the other hand, you can buy prolab creatine 1000g for 20$, dextrose about $2/lbs, and ALA 120cps at 250mg/cp for $25. Then toss in Optimum's 100% whey $41 for 10lbs (checkout LegalGear.com) and you have a grand total of $88, and that will last you well beyond a month!

Check it out a little closer, look at the ingredients on the back of Celltech, all it is is creatine, dex, and ala. Now compare the amount per serving to the number of servings in the container. Now cross check that with the number of servings you can get out of buying them seperate. Celltech is 200g of creatine 4000mg of ALA, and 1500g of dex. Seperate you get 1000g creatine, 30,000mg ALA, and who cares about dex, the stuff is 2 bucks a pound. Oh, and I don't really have to mention it, but your getting 6 more lbs of protein for $9 less, not to mention that Optimum tasts better and mixes easily.

So there it is, if you want to save money, get top grade product that tastes good, and get the same results all you have to do is look around instead of falling for the 5 page ad that promises the world.

bighitz · #10 09-22-03, 07:28 PM

wow homie you really do take that extra mile on research on those products!!! thats some good info im definetly going to paste and copy that ... ya celltech is some over priced creatine but i was just giving my experience on those supplements as far as use...

YellowJacket · #11 09-22-03, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by bighitz
im not big on promoting because everyone has different opinions,, when i first used this stack together i lost about 10 pounds and increased my bench by about 50lbs and that no bullshit,,, my muscles felt like they always had a pump.. but ill be the first one say that nitrotech tastes like shit!!! the kids kept on being dropped of in the pool

The only way you lost 10lbs while on Cell Tech/Nitro Tech is due to a hypocaloric diet, certainly nothing to do with the Cell Tech or Nitro Tech. As much sugar as there is in Cell Tech, Im surprised you dropped 10lbs and didnt pack on 10lbs.

Both of these products are overhyped and highly overpriced. There are comparable (and better) products on the market for a fraction of the cost. Making your own Cell Tech is a wise thing to do since you can make your own for about 1/2 the price you would pay for commercial Cell Tech. Nitro Tech is nothing special, Id rather have 5lbs of Optimum 100% whey for $24 and save myself 10 bucks.

bighitz · #12 09-23-03, 11:32 AM

very true but i think it was mostly water weight that i dropped when on these supplements but hey i cant complain about the price "when" i was using these two i only payed about
$60 (had a hook up but lost it) but the two protein supplements that i believe are good would be isopure and optimum whey,,

mappgh · #13 09-24-03, 07:58 AM

I used both of these supplements together before and had excellent results. My bench went up about 40lbs. and I gained about 10lbs. in muscle which I kept. I only used it for about six weeks.

I recently tried Vitargo CGL creatine and I also liked this stuff too. I really didn't put on any weight but my strength did shoot up significantly.

HeavyLineBacker · #14 09-26-03, 11:56 PM

i need to lose fat and put on muscle... would this combo help?

YellowJacket · #15 09-27-03, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by HeavyLineBacker
i need to lose fat and put on muscle... would this combo help?

No. "The dog who chases two rabbits catches nothing"

Choose one. Bulk or cut. Only your diet will determine your success.

mappgh · #16 09-27-03, 08:04 AM

exactly what yellowjacket said!

cookmic5 · #17 09-27-03, 04:53 PM

Ummm.... not to contradict YJ, because he is by far more knowledgable than me, but...

This depends on whether your goal of putting on muscle and losing fat is a long term goal or short therm. If long term, then IM(extremly humble)O I would say this is possible. If you have a good diet (I put specific emphasis on this) you can cut body fat and still put on muscle. I believe YJ was generalizing based on the fact that your asking about two product that are generally unused by knowledgeable bros that are familiar with supplements. Most people that know use the separate supplement buying techinque (buy ALA, Creatine, Dextrose separate, see either YJ's recipe or my post earlier in this thread) to maximize cost and production efficiency. Since the question in this thread is about Celltech and Nitrotech, the combination aspect is problematic. If you isolate the supp's your buying, and your diet is solid, then you can better manipulate your gains, thus cut body fat and increase size at the same time.

This is not to contradict YJ's statement. His statement about "only your diet will determine you sucess" is paramount in his argument. If your bodyfat is already low i.e. below 10-12% (generalization this is open to argument) then you would usuallly, for most people, need to put on fat to gain significant weight/strenght. However, if your bodyfat is high it is very possible to cut body fat and increse weight with proper diet and lifting.

IMO, Celltech with Nitrotech will add bodyfat and increase strength if used properly (as well as deplete wallet size), however, isolation and manpulation of supplements will lead to better gains with higher potential for bodyfat loss (as well as benifit the wallet).

cm5

p.s. YJ please offer you opinions if I misinterpreted your last statement... I'm not in the business of contradicting mod's

YellowJacket · #18 09-27-03, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by cookmic5

This depends on whether your goal of putting on muscle and losing fat is a long term goal or short therm. If long term, then IM(extremly humble)O I would say this is possible. If you have a good diet (I put specific emphasis on this) you can cut body fat and still put on muscle. I believe YJ was generalizing based on the fact that your asking about two product that are generally unused by knowledgeable bros that are familiar with supplements. Most people that know use the separate supplement buying techinque (buy ALA, Creatine, Dextrose separate, see either YJ's recipe or my post earlier in this thread) to maximize cost and production efficiency. Since the question in this thread is about Celltech and Nitrotech, the combination aspect is problematic. If you isolate the supp's your buying, and your diet is solid, then you can better manipulate your gains, thus cut body fat and increase size at the same time.

Sure you can add lean mass and cut bodyfat all in the same 'cycle', more often than not its going to have to be with gear or a prestine diet or both. Any time oyu add lean mass, it will require your body to burn more fat at rest simply to maintain the new muscle. But by reading this guys info in this thread (ie. cell tech & nitro tech) I doubt hes intelligent enough (yet, not a knock in the least) to add lean mass and lose bodyfat at once. So its best to pack on some mass (muscle and fat) then use a separate scheme to lose the excess fat.

cookmic5 · #19 09-27-03, 06:36 PM

lets just hope he's intelligent enough not to jump directly to gear. IMO, anyone asking questions about Celltech and Nitrotech should be banned from buying gear. People like that are part of the reason for the initiative for banning PH's.

HeavyLineBacker, the moral of the story is DIET, DIET, DIET! Know what your putting in and why, and then you can start to understand and manipulate your gains and losses in both the size and body fat categories, just randomly taking one supp with another won't do it for you, there is NO magic pill (or powder for that matter).

cm5

obscured78 · #20 09-28-03, 12:00 AM

overrated, overpriced, need i say more?

mappgh · #21 09-28-03, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by cookmic5
IMO, anyone asking questions about Celltech and Nitrotech should be banned from buying gear. People like that are part of the reason for the initiative for banning PH's.

cm5

You offer very good advice, but how are people supposed to learn if they don't ask questions? Especially with the ads muscletech puts out there, I'm surprised we don't here more questions about these products.

heavylinebacker - One drawback to celltech is the tendency to put on fat while supplementing with it. Personally, I did not have a problem with this, but many people I do know that did use it put on some unwanted fat. This was beneficial because the extra weight helped in gaining lean muscle mass, and when they did finally cut up it worked out pretty good for them.

King Moose · #22 10-02-03, 01:34 PM

I've got to agree with everyone else when it comes to price and taste. But when I was on Nitro-tech alone i was very pleased. It DOES taste bad, put mine in and inch or two of water, mixed it with a hand blender gulped it down and had a glass of ice water to chase it with (no kidding!)