critique my shoulder exercises

[babylon]

hey guys, critique my shoulder exercises , im trying to get bigger delts and mainly bigger traps,, this is what ido on shoulder day, which is once a week...

military press behind the back; 3 sets , 10 8 6
dumbell front raises; 3 sets , 10 8 6
dumbell side raises; 3 sets , 10 8 6
high pulls; 3 sets , 10 8 6
barbell shrugs; 4sets , 10 10 10
dumbell shrugs; 4sets , 10 10 10

thanks

[Face]

You see, this is exactly the number of reps I would have been using to achieve what u r trying to, but I have recently heard that 4-6 reps is better for building mass...... maybe 10 reps is getting a bit high, you should consider increasing the weight for lower reps i think.

[Mr. Shoulders]

10 reps is a good amount of reps...Remember the complexity of the shoulder joint...you want them warmed up well. IMO you are not doing enough variety of exercises. Shoulders need to be hit from all angles...Cable exercises are good for this...Take it from me...I know

[ugetsum]

Originally posted by INTIMID8OR3
I wouldn't do anything behind the neck for your shoulders the rotator cuff is just to easy to tear,As the weight goes up so does the risk... Just my opinion ...

Very wise advice. I used to go heavy behind the neck and had shoulder problems all the time. Now, I warm up properly and only press in the front, never behind the neck. I'm pain free. What kind of weight are you pushing? How intense are your shoulder sessions?

[meat12]

Yeah thats the one of the worst things you can do, military press behind the neck. It's too much pressure on both the rotator and neck. Careful man, just do it up front. An injury will set you back months maybe longer.

[Chris]

Do you really need two isolation excersizes for the traps? High pulls already work the traps...

Chris

[babylon]

ya now that u mention it when i do behind the back , it starts hurting after 6reps, i just thought that front wasnt as effective as behind the back, as for poundage, i go pretty light for the front and side dumbell raises, about 20-25 pound dumbells because i focus on technique of going up slow and coming down slower. and for shrugs i try to go real heavy, supersetting the bar and dumbell shrugs. THANKS ALOT for comments i apreciate that shit, also guys... which shoulder exercises do u guys love for delts and traps, and do u go heavy weight low reps , or high reps low weight ??

[meat12]

for delts i would say only do what you can handle, the last thing you want is shoulder problems.

try arnold's, they seem to work good for me

[Dinatos8282]

I agree with avoiding behind the neck presses, same with lat pulldowns. I recently read that you get more muscle activation doing them to the apex of the chest then behind the neck. The most common injuries with body builders are with shoulders and knees, not to mention back. So save those shoulders or you will not be doing much of any lifting.

As for exercises, I really like upright rows. This can stress the rotator cuff to so be carefull. I also superset barbell shrugs with front plate raises. Seems to work well. Definately throw some cables in there; lateral raises, front raises. HTH

[babylon]

I dont use cables for shoulders at all ! ... imo dumbells are alot better than cables, i do lateral raises and front raises one arm at a time w. dumbell.. , thats just my opinion.. why do you think cables are better? what advantage do you think cables will have over dumbells ? im down to do anything that will work.. thanks for comments

[meat12]

Switch off every few weeks from cables to db's, it'll give you some nice results. I'll use strech bands every once in a while too, they work reall good for shoulders.