abs...everyday?

[Juka865]

Hey guys. Have this ab routine i do every nite and so far i mean from diet an excercise my stomache and region ive been working on has been going down. But im not sure if this is due to the abs. I still have that layer of fat im trying to knock off dieting and excercising and doing about 25 mins of abs a night. But should i be doing this every nite? is it ok to? Because i feel like i should otherwise from the dieting im doing i will have extra skin i lost alot and still am loosing some or in the long run does it help to do them every other nite since they are muscles and im just using my resistance i figured i can just do every nite. Is this wrong help me out plz. Which ever will show better results let me know please.

[Face]

I don't think its right to train any muscle group every night, they need time to recover to develop. If you're going to do them so much, don't do more than every other night, but personally i wouldn't do them more than twice a week tops.

[Shibby]

You can't spot reduce fat. Your abs are the last thing to show. You can do all the abs you want but if you don't get your body fat low enough you will never be able to tell. You said you have "loose" skin. How much have you lost?

[Stonecold54]

abs are the same as every other muscle. should be trained once a week at the maximum. 2-3 sets of weighted exercises should be fine. america has no idea what abs are anymore.

[Juka865]

does anyone of you guys/girls have abs here?

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Juka865
does anyone of you guys/girls have abs here?

I hope we all do. LOL otherwise we would look like rubber chickens. like it was stated before everyone has abs, you just have to burn the layer of bodyfat off by dieting.

[Juka865]

well i ment do u actually look like the people on the late nite infomercials that brag how those piece of shits work ?

[Mr. Perfect]

3 days at week is good for you and yours abs

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Juka865
well i ment do u actually look like the people on the late nite infomercials that brag how those piece of shits work ?

Do you believe that Tom Cruise really is the Last Samurai?

[psyko1]

Originally posted by stonecold54
abs are the same as every other muscle. should be trained once a week at the maximum. 2-3 sets of weighted exercises should be fine. america has no idea what abs are anymore.

once a week at max?
SC, abs really aren't like other muscle groups though are they? i mean is the purpose of doing abs to get them to stick out 22 inches like your bi's? i always was under the impression that you want them to be as tight as can be, wth the most definition possible. eod i think would be fine but 25 minutes might be too long. juka if you don't mind me asking just what the hell are you doing for 25 minutes? mine don't take longer than 10 to do, and i can hardly sit up when i'm done. but i don't do weighted reps though.

[Face]

Another tip is not to do your obliques too often as this can result in a bulky waistline.....

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by psyko1
once a week at max?
SC, abs really aren't like other muscle groups though are they? i mean is the purpose of doing abs to get them to stick out 22 inches like your bi's? i always was under the impression that you want them to be as tight as can be, wth the most definition possible. eod i think would be fine but 25 minutes might be too long. juka if you don't mind me asking just what the hell are you doing for 25 minutes? mine don't take longer than 10 to do, and i can hardly sit up when i'm done. but i don't do weighted reps though.

as far as being skeletal muscle they are the same. I don't know where the reference to BIs came in from but I don't think abs wil ever look like that. I guess I was referring to my own workouts. My total time for working out chest is about 6 minutes of Time under tension and that is about the same for abs. that is why I said it should be trained like any other muscle group. and if for some reason you think your abs are getting to big then just stop working them out.

[psyko1]

Originally posted by stonecold54
as far as being skeletal muscle they are the same. I don't know where the reference to BIs came in from but I don't think abs wil ever look like that. I guess I was referring to my own workouts. My total time for working out chest is about 6 minutes of Time under tension and that is about the same for abs. that is why I said it should be trained like any other muscle group. and if for some reason you think your abs are getting to big then just stop working them out.

i just meant that i've always felt that they could be worked eod, or even ed because your goal isn't the same as say chest or bi's which would be to make them grow as much as possible to get as big as possible. and working obliques won't necessarily give you a blocky waistline face, and if your body structure is made up that way then just grow your lats. SC i don't understand your workouts, i get the time under tension part, but when do you go up in weight? how do you keep track of your progress?

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by psyko1
i just meant that i've always felt that they could be worked eod, or even ed because your goal isn't the same as say chest or bi's which would be to make them grow as much as possible to get as big as possible. and working obliques won't necessarily give you a blocky waistline face, and if your body structure is made up that way then just grow your lats. SC i don't understand your workouts, i get the time under tension part, but when do you go up in weight? how do you keep track of your progress?

I have an goal for time under tension. so for instance on biceps I try and get 45-50 seconds for a set. I will pick a weight for that and when my sets go over that time, then i will increase the weight so my time under tension goes down to about 40-45 seconds again and then repeat that. i use a logbook to keep track of progress. and I would say regarless of your goals your muscles and body react the same to the stressor. so it is not a good thing to overtrain any muscle. people always have the same goals. lose bodyfat or gain muscle. if you want more visible abs, lose bodyfat. if you want bigger ones then just work them out.

[r_deese]

the thing with abs is most people just want to do tons of crunches and crap and expect their abs to get ripped and stick out. They will get toned from all the crunches, but they're just like any other muscle in that they have to be torn down so they can build back up. If you do hard abs 1, maybe 2 days a week, weighted like cable crunches and the likes, you don't have to do them for 30 minutes or anything... u can do 4 sets of 10 heavy weight cable crunches and that will do fine. Once you build muscle in the abdomen, they will stick out more, especially if u burn fat off. This is the biggest misconception with abs... they won't get ripped and stick out from doing crunches 30 minutes a day everyday

[sana]

Originally posted by r_deese
They will get toned from all the crunches,

no they won't. there is no such thing as "toning" or spot reducing.

you need to reduce your overall body fat percentages to have your abs show up, period.

juka - 25min/day isn't gonna help you get the infomercial abs. it's all in the diet and cardio.

[r_deese]

Originally posted by sana
no they won't. there is no such thing as "toning" or spot reducing.

you need to reduce your overall body fat percentages to have your abs show up, period.

juka - 25min/day isn't gonna help you get the infomercial abs. it's all in the diet and cardio.

I mean that the abs underneath the fat will have a more muscular look once the BF is cut if u do crunches, they just won't stick out.... u can't tell me that not doing jack for your abs and cutting the fat is going to look as good as doing the crunches and then cutting the fat. STRESS : I'm not saying that doing crunches will cut the fat for you.... never did

[sana]

Originally posted by r_deese
I mean that the abs underneath the fat will have a more muscular look once the BF is cut if u do crunches, they just won't stick out.... u can't tell me that not doing jack for your abs and cutting the fat is going to look as good as doing the crunches and then cutting the fat. STRESS : I'm not saying that doing crunches will cut the fat for you.... never did

i want to stress that we need to try to remove the word "tone" from our vocabulary. if i hear one more girl or even guy say "i don't wanna lift weights, i just wanna get toned" i'm gonna kill someone.

the only way to achieve the "tone" is to shed fat and build muscle. you told him crunches will tone abs which leads to a generality that crunches may help with "spot reduction" another myth i'd like to kill with a jackhammer. this is no true and the point i want to get across to him.

[r_deese]

That's fine, just the way you said it made me sound like a moron, and it took what I said out of context. I do agree with you though.

[Integrator]

Originally posted by stonecold54
I hope we all do. LOL otherwise we would look like rubber chickens. like it was stated before everyone has abs, you just have to burn the layer of bodyfat off by dieting.

LOL that was nice Yeah well I'm having some hard time burning that F***** fat but I'm trying as hard as I can. I also do abs, but not every day.

[Juka865]

This is how i feel. If i dont work out my abominals every day then i feel that the weight im loosing it make my stomache like mush. I dont know thats why im asking you guys this. I dont want them to stick out. I just want a little definition when my BF layer comes off im dieting and doing cardio for it but im just wondering if doing that every day will help define help while my bf is comming off so when it does i do have something there n not just a flat stomache with no definition in it. thats all. Im no big body lifter looking for abs that look like fucking rocks I just want something then a stomache right now. And to answer the person who said wtf am i doing in 25 mins. I like to have excercises that target 1 area at a time lower mid or upper. I do cross knees reverse crunches leg raises etc. I do sets of those each I also do some stretching excercises for my waist or love handles although im not having so much of them any more which is awesome. So its prolly 18mins more like it. I just wanted the original question and not a friggin debate though. Will doing every day be helpful in getting just some definition. Ofcourse if i wanted big rock hard abs id either do every other day or do it 2 times a week spaced out with weighted. Thx...

[Juka865]

Sry for the long sentences im in a hurry to go somewhere n have little time to make it 100% readable lol sry.

[Integrator]

Originally posted by Juka865
(...)I dont want them to stick out. I just want a little definition when my BF layer comes off im dieting and doing cardio for it but im just wondering if doing that every day will help define help while my bf is comming off so when it does i do have something there n not just a flat stomache with no definition in it. thats all. Im no big body lifter looking for abs that look like fucking rocks I just want something then a stomache right now.(...)

Ifeel in exactly the same way Bro. Best of luck!

[Stonecold54]

debate is what brings knowledge out. My whole point is this and I mentioned this before: Either people want to lose bodyfat or they want to gain muscle. There are no other mediums of exercise (toning, hardening, getting ripped, Etc...) If your abs are feeling mushy then I will bet my left leg that you are overtraining. that mushy feeling is from a glyogen depeltion. you are never giving them a chance to replenish their stores or recover as a whole. not to mention that every workout you do will act as a negative towards recovery of your other muscle groups (general adaptive syndrome). also remember that some people just don't have good genetics for developing nice abs. most peoples ab walls are not perfectly shaped like the "fitness models". and one more thing don't worry about doing different types of exercises for abs. they are a wall and not separate muscles. just pick two and do a few sets.