My stupid calves wont grow

[JUICE]

No matter how I train them they dont wanna grow, what else can I do, fucking bastard got me pissed

[jipped genes]

i have the same prob i have been traning them 2 X a week with 6 sets each day and do between 18-20 reps but my buddy told me that you have to work them well into the "hurt" i think i will always have chicken legs but they are coming along slowly.

[Nekrawulf]

You guys need to work past the Pain threshhold here.
That is what the "cooked calved in under 4 minutes article is all about"

You have to take your calves way past their pain treshhold and far beyond.

When it startes hurting.. keep going... it will feel like somone shoving a hot poker into them , but hey...that means its working.

PUSH IT PUSH IT PUSH IT.

If you can walk away from your calf workout...you not doing it right... you should have to push on the gas pedal with your freaking hands....at least the first few times you do it right =-]

[JUICE]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
You guys need to work past the Pain threshhold here.
That is what the "cooked calved in under 4 minutes article is all about"

You have to take your calves way past their pain treshhold and far beyond.

When it startes hurting.. keep going... it will feel like somone shoving a hot poker into them , but hey...that means its working.

PUSH IT PUSH IT PUSH IT.

If you can walk away from your calf workout...you not doing it right... you should have to push on the gas pedal with your freaking hands....at least the first few times you do it right =-]

Hey brother, what if i use 500 punds on the machine and do 10 reps like usual. Ok will going beyond that help, like as in over 20 reps and shit like that. Going beyond the pain. Fuck Im still embarresed to wear shorts bro, people say that they look fine and all but i dont like them yet.

[Nekrawulf]

Most peoples calves dont respond to heavy weight.. its due to the type of muscle fibres. Try medium weight with insane reps...50-100 speed and intensity is the key.

[hitmansb]

Use bodyweight for standing calf raises and do very high reps...think 30+ at least, with proper technique...as in all the way down to a full stretch, and then right up onto the tips of the toes in an explosive manner...holding at the top for a brief peak contraction. Every time you come in, try to add a rep or two. Do this for 3 sets twice a week. If you do this for 6 weeks and have made no progress at all, you are genetically fucked...give up. That sounds harsh, but over the years I've found it to be true in 9/10 cases.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
Most peoples calves dont respond to heavy weight.. its due to the type of muscle fibres. Try medium weight with insane reps...50-100 speed and intensity is the key.

what do you mean by speed?

[JUICE]

Originally posted by hitmansb
Use bodyweight for standing calf raises and do very high reps...think 30+ at least, with proper technique...as in all the way down to a full stretch, and then right up onto the tips of the toes in an explosive manner...holding at the top for a brief peak contraction. Every time you come in, try to add a rep or two. Do this for 3 sets twice a week. If you do this for 6 weeks and have made no progress at all, you are genetically fucked...give up. That sounds harsh, but over the years I've found it to be true in 9/10 cases.

yup thats what im gonna try to do from now on. How does this sound brother:


6 sets in total

toes normal: 2 sets of 30 reps

inward: 2 sets of 30 reps

outward: 2 sets of 30 reps

how does that sound to u all if the wieghts aint helping me out there.

[hitmansb]

Looks good, except the part about alternate toe positions. It's really not necessary to do them that way; I used to YEARS ago...found it made no difference. The key is getting deep and then explosively coming up right onto the tips of your toes. It hits the whole calf, so no need to go 'in' and 'out'.

Oh, and don't forget....don't stay at 30 reps...that's just somewhere to start so that you're not walking funny for a week. As you get better at them, you'll want to build up to around 50 reps...at which time you can cut your sets down to 3, twice a week.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by hitmansb
Looks good, except the part about alternate toe positions. It's really not necessary to do them that way; I used to YEARS ago...found it made no difference. The key is getting deep and then explosively coming up right onto the tips of your toes. It hits the whole calf, so no need to go 'in' and 'out'.

Oh, and don't forget....don't stay at 30 reps...that's just somewhere to start so that you're not walking funny for a week. As you get better at them, you'll want to build up to around 50 reps...at which time you can cut your sets down to 3, twice a week.

thanx bro, i will give these a try today

[Stonecold54]

calves like forearms are used a lot in daily life. we can all agree on that. so why go into the gym and throw gasoline on a fire that is already burning. you have said that you have tried a lot of methods. have you tried one set a week. because that is what I do and mine grow like weeds. the answer is not more sets. the answer is to do one set a week of controlled (not fast) reps and see how that works. then you can add sets in the future if that is not enough. also remember that some peoples calf genetics are horrible and the placement and length of the muscle will prevent them from ever having large calves.

[BronzedGoddess]

I spent 150 bucks on strength shoes. have not had the chance to really use them. I'll let ya know if it works. Jumping rope helped but I still have the smallest calves.

[rock]

Mountain biking and hill running helps mine a lot...I am trying to get mine back to 20"s

[Tinfish]

i bike a ton and run even more and my calves are itty bitty. i have tried nekra's 4 minute calf cooker and that leaves me hobbling out the door.

[Jarconis]

i do heavy calf raises ( 700+) pounds, and I am happy with the results, but I had pretty big calves before I decided to start working them out anyway.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by BronzedGoddess
I spent 150 bucks on strength shoes. have not had the chance to really use them. I'll let ya know if it works. Jumping rope helped but I still have the smallest calves.

hey gril, do u have the rpogram, cause i have the damn shoes but dont have the program. I dont even know how ot use them

[BronzedGoddess]

hey babe, yeah I got the tape. It's back in storage with the rest of my stuff in Texas but I should be getting all that next month. I'll send it to you if you'd like.

I didn't use the program yet. I was walking around my house in them and jumping rope at first. trying to build my lower legs up before I started.

[Stonecold54]

not trying to be a jerk but do you guys honestly think that some High-toe shoes are going to replace calf-raises. building muscle requires a stimulus that your body perceives as a threat to its existence. that is why we train so hard. I don't think shoes will accomplish that.

[BronzedGoddess]

true BUT if you place your full body weight on you toes and not your heel your body will respond. You don't have to try it, but it has worked for people I know so I'm giving it a try. I NEVER said not to use weight did I? There's more than 1 way to skin a cat.......

[Ditsz]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
Most peoples calves dont respond to heavy weight.. its due to the type of muscle fibres. Try medium weight with insane reps...50-100 speed and intensity is the key.

Nekra, I weigh in at a whopping 101 pounds LMAO, 5 ft 4" and bodyfat is 17.5%. I've only been back into my training the last 2 months and am finding it impossible as to what excercises to do with calves, everybody says something different. Can you recommend a calve program? I saw mentioned the: cooked calved in under 4 minutes article. Where can I get it, I'd love to try it out?

[needsize]

Nelson Montana, the author from elite has a calve program that anyone who has tried it says they got results.
You pick a weight that you can get 20 reps on raises. You do your 20 reps, hit failure, and rack it. You take a very short rest, say 10-15 seconds, go for as many more reps as you can get, then another really short rest period. You continue with this until you hit 75 reps. This would take you well beyond the pain zone. I havent tried it as I'm dieting for a show so no chance of gaining size anyway, but as soon as its over I plan on giving it a try

[Nekrawulf]

Originally posted by Ditsz
Nekra, I weigh in at a whopping 101 pounds LMAO, 5 ft 4" and bodyfat is 17.5%. I've only been back into my training the last 2 months and am finding it impossible as to what excercises to do with calves, everybody says something different. Can you recommend a calve program? I saw mentioned the: cooked calved in under 4 minutes article. Where can I get it, I'd love to try it out?

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...=&threadid=390


Basically the idea is the same as the program Needsize has mentioned by Nelson Montana. You have to push your calves far into the pain threshhold. That is the way they are designed...to hurt before they are even close to breaking down. That way you can alway be able to walk...theroetically.

Just push yourself far into the pain threshhold, using reps, to grow....that is a rule that has worked for anyone with lagging calves.

With this program twice a week... Ive put on almost half an inch in a month and a half.

[JUICE]

sounds good bro's

[Ditsz]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...=&threadid=390


Basically the idea is the same as the program Needsize has mentioned by Nelson Montana. You have to push your calves far into the pain threshhold. That is the way they are designed...to hurt before they are even close to breaking down. That way you can alway be able to walk...theroetically.

Just push yourself far into the pain threshhold, using reps, to grow....that is a rule that has worked for anyone with lagging calves.

With this program twice a week... Ive put on almost half an inch in a month and a half.

Thanks very much, I am going to try that..
Appreciate your help!

[bigpump23]

you ever tried donkey calf raises? i never grew til i tried them then they blew up