your opinion on tyson training plan

[tiny pinder]

this is from a boxing forum, which are always filled with know it all kids ,i think this is a load of crap here is the response i gave on the forum-as someone who has good knowledge of training and its effects on the body,i would have to say this program is a load of crap
if he did what he said he would be training all endurance,checked out endurance athletes physiques, even sprinters that train for pure power arent as bulked as tyson, it is impossible to have a physique like his without heavy weight training,loads of good food(steak,pasta,juice is a crap diet for health.

even if he was using loads of sust,deca and winny on this program i still cant see him being aNYWHERE NEAR THAT MUSCULAR.
and 7 days a week would cause nothing but overtraining and injuries.

i am open to debate on everything but when it comes to this,after spending so many years training lifting and researching i cannot beleive this is his program.

Daily Regime (7 days a week):

5am: get up and go for a 3 mile jog

6am: come back home shower and go back to bed (great
workout for those huge legs of his)

10am wake up: eat oatmeal

12pm: do ring work (10 rounds of sparring)

2pm: have another meal (steak and pasta with fruit
juice drink)

3pm: more ring work and 60 mins on the exercise bike
(again working those huge legs for endurance)

5pm: 2000 sit-ups; 500-800 dips; 500 press-ups; 500
shrugs with a 30kg barbell and 10 mins of neck
exercises

7pm: steak and pasta meal again with fruit juice
(orange I think it was)

8pm: another 30 minutes on the exercise bike
then watch TV and then go to bed.

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Before jogging in the morning he did a lot of
stretching followed by 10 jumps onto boxes and 10
bursts of sprints, then he went jogging. At 12pm he
sparred. At 3pm he did focus mitt work or heavy bag
work inside the ring. He warmed up for all ring work
with light exercises such as skipping or shadow boxing
or speed ball. At 5pm Tyson did 10 quick circuits,
each circuit consisting of: 200 sit-ups, then 25-40
dips, then 50 press-ups, then 25-40 dips, then 50
shrugs, followed by 10 mins of neck work on the floor.
What an animal! Tyson said that the shrugs "built his
shoulders up" to help unleash punches with his short
arms whilst at the same time building endurance in the
neck. It should be noted though that Tyson couldn't do
any more than 50 sit-ups a day and 50 press-ups a day
when he was 13, but gradually increasing the reps each
week got him to a higher level over many years, so
that he was doing 2000 sit-ups inside 2 hours every
day by the time he was 20.)

Mike told Ian Darke (Sky commentator) his above
workout regime when he visited England to watch a
Frank Bruno fight in March 1987. Durke told Mike that
Bruno trained like a bodybuilder and asked Mike about
this, but Mike said that floor exercises and natural
exercises work better. Mike explained that his
punch-power comes from nothing more than heavy bag
work "works your strength through the hips" he said,
despite doing shrugs with a barbell he said that
lifting weights has about as much resemblance to
punching as "cheesecake" (contradicting himself though
due to doing shrugs). But his mentor Cus D'Amato
realised that, due to Tyson's style, he needed
punch-power (not that he didn't have it naturally
anyway). So Cus got Mike very heavy bags to hit for a
13 yr old, and Cus gradually increased the weight of
the bags Tyson used over time so that by the age of
18-19 Tyson was banging bags that no other man could
budge! Also, Cus used to order Tyson to go jog 3 miles
with 50lbs on his back because he didn't want Mike
growing any taller (because it didn't suit his style)!

[tiny pinder]

here is a pic of his physique
<img src="http://www.mm52.com/occidentalidols/mike_tyson/thumb_mike_tyson_013.jpg">

also,tyson talks alot of crap and doesnt take most interviews too seriously so making stuff up wouldnt surprise me.

[tiny pinder]

http://www.mm52.com/occidentalidols/..._tyson_013.jpg
http://www.starpulse.com/Athletes/Ty...iew.html?pic=1
heres the links myu pic post not working obviously

[Taylor]

how can u do 500-800 dips after doing all that shit before 5pm....i'd imagine you arms would already be dragging from the sparring

i doubt tyson does that, but i would imagine tyson has a routine that may look like "overtraining" but obviously it works for him

on another note, i know alot of black people who don't work out incredibly hard and they are built like tanks......it seems black people have better natural bodies then everyone else, they get ripped easier.....but this is just an observation that i think seems to be true

[Gods Son]

hhhhmmmm, I dont know but Hershal Walker used to claim he never lifted weights and was bigger and stronger than Tyson...On beyond the glory it said his first time lifting weights was a strength test at the university of Georgia...He benched 365....

[Stonecold54]

that is why they are called ELITE athletes...because they AINT NORMAL. lol...and I think tyson should change his rountine up since he keeps getting his ass kicked.

[tiny pinder]

obviously tyson doesnt train at all anymore apart from the strip clubs and hes about 39, this was when he was 18.
who was hershell walker?
if guys like tyson truly dont do weights and also duncan dokiwari the nigerian is the same, its like his genetics look at mine and kick sand in their face.

taylor,not black people as a whole,kenyans are tiny, they are amazing at aerobic stuff,but nigerians are very powerfull people, it depends on where exactly they come from, but apparently if i say they are more physically superior it is racist because that implies they are more primitive! you just cant win these days

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by tiny pinder

who was hershell walker?

are you serious?

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by Shibby

are you serious?

:laughnew:

[tiny pinder]

well i looked him up and hes an nfl superstar, in australia we dont watch nfl or have any desire to,the stop start game is not our style,same as baseball.
its spelt Herschel Walker ,
from the photos ive seen of him he looks more athletic than tyson,

[Gods Son]

He was a hell of a lot more athletic than Tyson

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by tiny pinder

well i looked him up and hes an nfl superstar, in australia we dont watch nfl or have any desire to,the stop start game is not our style,same as baseball.
its spelt Herschel Walker ,
from the photos ive seen of him he looks more athletic than tyson,

I knew by that post you weren't american :usausausa




I'm just messing with you.

[beefcake]

All that over training is probably why tyson doesn't look that great. He should take some lessons from holyfield.

[BBAddict]

Originally Posted by beefcake

All that over training is probably why tyson doesn't look that great. He should take some lessons from holyfield.

--or from George Foreman. Go get a Foreman grill and he'll get ripped in no time.

[tiny pinder]

there is a good article on holyfields training on the net, it was very scientific for a boxing program and ive used alot of the ideas from it,work very well.

[Primal Instinct]

Regardless of what was mentioned in interviews, Tyson did in fact weight train when he was younger. Bodyweight exercises (unweighted dips, pushups, leg raises, etc.,) mostly serve just to tone and condition. In addition to eating a clean nutritionally sound diet, to add any appreciable amount of lean muscle mass one needs to perform weight resistance training with gradually increasing work loads. There's no other way around it. It's all part of the hype f the character, as if he is a natural superhuman. It's a farce.