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Old 11-08-06, 04:31 PM
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unconventional trap exercises

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i accumulated several persistent injuries some years ago, and after returning to bb'ing am having some difficulty developing my traps, due to an AC strain--shruggs set my should into a fit, as do upright rows, and even behind the neck presses, to some extent.

Q: can anyone suggest an alternative/unconventional exercise for developing traps, especially the area from beneath the ears to the shoulders that they think won't aggravate a recurring AC strain? Or, exercise(s) to help heal/rehabilitate this injury? Note: rest does not seem to work--it has healed in the past, but keeps recurring after resuming workouts.



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Old 11-09-06, 04:01 PM
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Deadlifts have developed my traps more than anything
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Deadlifts have developed my traps more than anything

Yes,,,these are real good for traps.
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I'm not sure about how much of the shoulder capsule you're going to eliminate in the movement BUT I love the "facing an inclined bench and shrugging" lift - not sure what it is called...
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I'm not sure about how much of the shoulder capsule you're going to eliminate in the movement BUT I love the "facing an inclined bench and shrugging" lift - not sure what it is called...

Alin & knoxville...thanks 2 both of u for your input. I just don't know how much strain my AC joint will take doing deadlifts, although, i know they are excellent for developing the traps.

fog_hat...i think i know what u r referring to and this may work. in fact, i have already been doing something similar by simply leaning forward when doing shrugs. thanks.

it is very frustrating to be held back by recurring injuries, when u know that u could make significant gains in their absence.


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fog_hat...i think i know what u r referring to and this may work. in fact, i have already been doing something similar by simply leaning forward when doing shrugs. thanks.
Deadlifts would not be a good idea IMO...

I meant to tell you that this is what I do when my shoulders are bothering me etc - just make sure not to "roll" them at all and don't go too heavy or else you might as well be deadlifting....

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Deadlifts would not be a good idea IMO...

I meant to tell you that this is what I do when my shoulders are bothering me etc - just make sure not to "roll" them at all and don't go too heavy or else you might as well be deadlifting....

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I don't think and AC problem will sustain any type of productive deadlift. I think Foghat's way might work if you can find the right angle to support that shoulder and still hit the traps. I'm sure you know which direction of movement feels most stable. It's going to be hard to do something well. If you look at the movement function (The AC joint is a gliding joint within the shoulder. This joint is specific to primates and humans, allowing for the ability to raise the arm above the head. This joint functions as a pivot point, acting like a strut to help with movement of the scapula resulting in a greater degree of arm rotation. Also, the AV joint allows for the transmission of force from the upper arm to the rest of the skeleton.) the AC joint is what makes your body able to move for shrug exercises. It would be like trying to find and unconventional way to do calf raises.(ankles, hands and top vertabrae are where you find other gliding joints).
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I don't think and AC problem will sustain any type of productive deadlift. I think Foghat's way might work if you can find the right angle to support that shoulder and still hit the traps. I'm sure you know which direction of movement feels most stable. It's going to be hard to do something well. If you look at the movement function (The AC joint is a gliding joint within the shoulder. This joint is specific to primates and humans, allowing for the ability to raise the arm above the head. This joint functions as a pivot point, acting like a strut to help with movement of the scapula resulting in a greater degree of arm rotation. Also, the AV joint allows for the transmission of force from the upper arm to the rest of the skeleton.) the AC joint is what makes your body able to move for shrug exercises. It would be like trying to find and unconventional way to do calf raises.(ankles, hands and top vertabrae are where you find other gliding joints).

makes sense. I'm really just looking 4 another angle to hit it from...like shrugs, but reverse grip, narrow grip, wide grip, inclined, etc. just wanted 2 know if anyone had any experiece in this area, with this particular injury.

But, i guess, i really need 2 figure that one out on my own...if it hurts don't do it, find another angle..maybe, something overhead. At any rate, my AC has gotten considerable better, so maybe i'll just stay on my current course.

thanks 4 the input.


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