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11-20-06, 05:10 PM
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incline dumbell press
in the past when i tried doing idp my left shoulder would pop in and out of place so i discontinued them and just used the olympic bar for inclines. Tonight i tried another attempt at idp and my same shoulder feels like the bone pops in and out of the socket and hurts like a bitch. I dont get this problem when i bring the weights up into position, it just happens like midway through my repitions. I had a spotter and didnt notice bad form but i dont know if it just wasnt ment to be or what but does anyone get this? When i do inclines with the bar im fine. I also started out with 80lbs. which is pretty light for me and i guess my shoulder just cant handle it i dunno. it pisses me off though cuz now its a little sore. I notice too that i can pop my left shoulder in and out of place by itself and my right i cant so maybe im just fucked up. i dont have any problems with it when i do shoulder workouts and i do shoulder presses with dumbells without a problem.. any tips and suggestions would help alot. tomorrow is my shoulder day too and i dont feel like skipping it but im gonna start light and move up if i feel comfortable.
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#2
11-20-06, 05:37 PM
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I have had shoulder problems pretty much all my life. I have had 2 surgeries on my left and it is still probably the worst of the two because the right is all scarred up and doesn't hurt. I have the same problem on incline that you have, so I use the smith or hammer strength. Unfortunately I don't know what to tell you except you aren't alone and it does blow. But like you, it doesn't bother me on shoulder day. Go figure
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11-20-06, 05:56 PM
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Keep it very light and learn to control movement slowly. If still have problems this may be an exercise you can do.
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11-20-06, 06:10 PM
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11-20-06, 09:55 PM
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I have actually had the same problem with my left shoulder popping half way up. What seems to help is to squeeze my shoulder blades together and limit the motion, this really seems to help with the popping. However this is very hard to do when grabbing the db and then learning back, but when I am able to do this popping is very minimal. When doing barbell it is much easier to keep shoulder blades back and you do not have as much movement as the db.
Not sure if this is your problem, but thought I would throw it out there.
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11-21-06, 07:11 AM
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Could be rotator cuff, but needless to say, it's not worth the risk of permanent damage to your shoulder to do incline DB presses. There are a few alternatives that have already been suggested. Personally, I'd go see the doc just to make sure it's nothing to worry about. Your shoulders are the one joint you can't afford to fuck up.
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11-21-06, 07:55 AM
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No telling, but if I had to guess, I would say rotator cuff as well. My shoulder bothers me when I do flat bench w/the bar. I've tried to work through it and now I have more popping and grinding. We probably both have inflammation which isn't good.
Take a look at this link to understand the shoulder anatomy a little better and to see some exercises that will help to strengthen and maybe alleviate your problem.The Rotator Cuff -- Injury Prevention & Rehabilitation
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11-21-06, 07:58 AM
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What does cortizone (i believe what he calls it) shots do? some dude told me he gets those shots for his injured shoulder and he says he's able to work with it without a problem
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11-21-06, 09:39 AM
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Did you try to play with the incline bench angles? You might be too upright. Do you do dumbbell shoulder presess? if you do, do you feel the same pop?
I am guessing the angle of the bench you are using is the cause of the problem. If you had a rotator cuf problem you would've felt your shoulder pop or hurt at almost any pressing movement. it just the way shoulder works.
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11-21-06, 10:15 AM
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11-21-06, 10:45 AM
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Cortisone is an anti-inflamatory steroid.
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11-21-06, 11:11 AM
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The pictures just cracked me up big time....
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11-21-06, 11:32 AM
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You know what come to think about it, i did have my elbows lined up straight across from each other instead of more inward towards my body. I don't have problems with my shoulder when i do shoulder dumbell presses and i usually do those every week nor do i have problems doing presses with the olympic bars. Yeah i was kinda looking at that "model" on bodybuilding.com.. lol did someone say "SASQUATCH"?
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11-22-06, 04:52 PM
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A very simple test to see if you may have a tear----Hold your arms down by your side, the palms of your hands against your thighs. Have someone hold against your hands, pressing them against your thighs while you try to raise your arm(s) laterally, straight out. If you have weakness or pain while trying to raise your arms, you most likely have a tear. Usually in the supraspinatis or infraspinatis. GO SEE AN ORTHO GUY!! Preferably one who is associated with a pro or college level sports team. Again, regardless of what anybody tells you--use deca, get cortisone, do this exercise or that one--WHATEVER, if it's torn, it's torn and nothing will fix it except surgery. And only then if the surgeon knows what he's doing. Usually a pro sports Dr. is best because team owners aren't going to trust sending a multi-million dollar athlete to a regular ortho guy. Just my 2cc's. Good luck. BB
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11-24-06, 03:51 PM
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thanks for the info. I tried the raising arm thing and i have no pain. So i guess thats good right? I didn't get to hit the gym for two days and my shoulder hasnt been bothering and i got shoulders tomorrow and did back today without a problem.
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11-25-06, 07:43 AM
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