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Old 09-27-07, 11:41 AM
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hey guys,
just had a question about wide stance deadlifts, does anyone do them or are they worse for your back then regular deadlifts? i have trouble with regular deadlifts cuz they always tear up my legs. so i thought if i stand with a wide stance i wont have to bend my knees as much. i am bending over a little bit more, but its not that much different then stiff legged deadlifts. any thoughts??
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I like a medium stance, not to wide, not to narrow. I know a wide stance would take away from some of your power. I guess it has a lot to do with your build etc. Only thing to do is try it and see how it feels. If something feels wrong, dont do it.
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Old 09-27-07, 01:58 PM
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How wide are we talking about? I've done em really wide, (Sumo style), really wide feet where the arms hang between the legs. I found that, for me, this actually puts less stress on my lower back and more on my glutes.

If, you do them this way then you shouldn't be bending over more, actually less because you're closer to the bar to begin with.

How are they tearing up your legs? shins? quads? both?
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hey guys,
just had a question about wide stance deadlifts, does anyone do them or are they worse for your back then regular deadlifts? i have trouble with regular deadlifts cuz they always tear up my legs. so i thought if i stand with a wide stance i wont have to bend my knees as much. i am bending over a little bit more, but its not that much different then stiff legged deadlifts. any thoughts??
As thebull said, the wider you go, the less you should be bending over. And ... since deads are tearing up your legs, it sounds like you've got a form problem.

Are you keeping your back straight through the lift? if not, try this ... be sure not to lock out your knees until after the bar passes over them. and keep you back straight.
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the bar is tearing up my shins, i cant figure out whats wrong. ill have to wait til next week and try that out, thanks!
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the bar is tearing up my shins, i cant figure out whats wrong. ill have to wait til next week and try that out, thanks!
your stance has to be wrong. shouldn't be touching your shins.
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i just added heavy deadlifts to my workout because before i would just do light weight and not really get much outta it. i love doing them heavy, it kicks my ass(in a good way) but i just need to do them right so it doesnt hurt me more then benefit me.
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your stance has to be wrong. shouldn't be touching your shins.
The bar should be right next to/against the shins/legs during the entire range of motion - anytime the bar gets away from them the lower back is in a bad position???
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get someone to critique you as you do it. how are we suppose to tell you what your doing wrong? if i had to guess your not "sitting down" enough on the initial lift. drive with you legs on the initial pull, and your using too much weight. get the form right first.
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yea your right, i guess its not a good idea to be pulling alot of weight if im not doing it right. it doesnt hurt my back or anything just my shins. thanks!
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The bar should be right next to/against the shins/legs during the entire range of motion - anytime the bar gets away from them the lower back is in a bad position???
the bar should not be rubbing up against your shins so much so that it is tearing up your shins as the OP posted. i personally keep it about half an inch from my shins and right up against my quads at the top.
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just did deadlifts yesterday, and i got the form down. the lift was much smoother. and i wore pants, which helped although i didnt hit my shins. i was doing about 225 which is good for me. hey just curious, what is everyone else deadlifting?(how much weight)
im 22 at 195lbs and pulling 225, although its not my max because i wasnt sure if it is safe to max out on deadlifts.
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Glad to hear you got the form going. It can take a little while for some to figure out what's comfortable for their body type, and once you got it you can play around with different stances.

Me 25, 5'9 173 my heaviest pull was 405 X 3 did that about a month ago. We always stuck with 3 rep max outs in college for all olympic lifts (squats,cleans,snatches etc...). So I've never done a 1 rep max. I'm not sure how others feel about this though.

As you get more comfortable with the lift the weight will go up just make sure you don't rush it, you'll know when you're ready.
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your stance has to be wrong. shouldn't be touching your shins.
I agree...I've heard on the board how it touches/scrapes their shins...It has never done that to me...This also has to do with how the bar is gripped.
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sumo.. some good advice here .bar should skim the shins.pretend u have a arrow pointing up on your chest,that arrow should be straight up at the sky.get the ass down.as u bring the wt up push the hips forward and start to tilt back as u go,if at any time your lower back bows forward or u claw the shit out your shins u got to much wt..if u are not using a reverse grip ive wasted ma time..pb 670@198..
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do over.some good advise here...i meant here on this forum.also if u are not using reverse (right hand normal left reverse)please do kind sir.
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yea thats how im holding the bar now, i cant grip it as well the regular way, also when i use straps it actually feels like my hands are weaker. im pretty sure thats not how they are suppose to work.
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id lose the straps.like the guys said prev,dont sacrifice form for all out wt.for me training sqauts and deadlifts on the same day worked best, dont laugh if done proper a sumo is very much a comp sqaut. heavy day sqauts low medium reps 4-8 finish up after rest of session with med high reps 8-12 in a kinda burnout mode with the sumos.next sqaut/dead day reverse your mode ..sumo for people with good quad and ass/power.convent deads for those with cast iron lower backs and good hip strength.my bud kenny pulls mid seven on a reg basis and when i watch him if my lower back had a asshole it would draw up...works for him though.be safe with your back.buell
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If your gym has a trap-bar, try doing deads with that. If it doesn't consider buying one, it's great investment. The only deads I do with the straight bar are RDLs.
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