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Old 02-21-08, 03:51 PM
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IMO there's 2 steps to building a big upper chest:

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Old 02-21-08, 04:42 PM
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are these kind of post your way of coming out of the closet or what? "burpees" what the hell kind of gay shit is that.
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Fog, so if you never break 90 degrees do you stop 3-4 inches above your chest for the bench press? I hope not. This is another myth of lifting for people with big egos that like to do more weight with partial ROM. (Bouncer if you arnt even capable of moving in this ROM that should say something to you. What kind of mobility are you goin to have in 10 years? Start full ROM and it will increase over time)

I ussualy see the partial presses with people that also do half and quarter squats with more weight than there spine can safely suport because they say full squats are bad for the knees when in actuality it is partial squats that put more torque on the knee.

This is not meant to sound aggressive. I think it may read that way more than i inteded.
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Old 02-23-08, 08:50 AM
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Fog, so if you never break 90 degrees do you stop 3-4 inches above your chest for the bench press? I hope not. This is another myth of lifting for people with big egos that like to do more weight with partial ROM. (Bouncer if you arnt even capable of moving in this ROM that should say something to you. What kind of mobility are you goin to have in 10 years? Start full ROM and it will increase over time)

I ussualy see the partial presses with people that also do half and quarter squats with more weight than there spine can safely suport because they say full squats are bad for the knees when in actuality it is partial squats that put more torque on the knee.

This is not meant to sound aggressive. I think it may read that way more than i inteded.
Different exercises present different obstacles in the way of anatomical limitations in the presence of the laws of physics - each and every exercise has it's own benefits and potential risks - in my case I teach what is the SAFEST from what I "know" - it has nothing to do with ego or trying to lift more weight at the sacrifice of form - safety is #1 in my book especially since for every "unsafe" exercise there might be 10 alternative exercises that are just as good and twice as safe...

As for bench presses - I typically bench from the floor - it keeps my shouders "safe" and I don't pile on weight just because my ROM is lessened....

When it comes to squats I'm a firm believer that ass to grass is the best way to go - as long as the knees don't pass out over the toes of course......

We might not have the same viewpoints on lifting and we might have different educational and experienced based backgrounds but you'll never hear me teach anything I don't believe in - I am personally kicking MYSELF for letting my elbows fall too low on close grip bench presses because it felt SO damn good on my triceps yet now my right shoulder is pretty much useless - the sheer force that weight exerted on my shoulder at such an extreme angle has torn it to shreds - I can't even lay on it at night or prop myself up on it to play with my son on the floor or lean it on the console of my truck while driving or reaching for a dishtowel can send it into fits of pain as well - SAFETY FIRST - trust me because you only get one damn body per life
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Old 02-25-08, 08:54 PM
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Burpees are awesome. I used to do them while training for rugby. You basically do a squat (body weight only) with your hands down, then jump into a pushup position, do a pushup, jump back into a standing position and then do an explosive jump up with your arms thrown up. Then start over. Do this about about a 100 times you will be ready to collapse... lol....
We called them "Bend and thrusts" in the Marines. In boot camp they were the drill instructors favorite form of punishment.
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