Injured my pec/shoulder - SuperiorMuscle.com

Mr incredible · #1 03-03-08, 01:50 PM

Haven't flat benched in ages, did it last week and it was fine so thought I'd do it again this week. Anyway I felt something go crackle in my shoulder/pec tendon so stopped right away. Taken some ibuprofen and just resting up now, I don't think its a propper tear but something definitely partially went.

I'l see how it goes and next week do like one plate a side or something for reps and get the feeling back. Hope it recovers fully put I don't think I'll be going heavy for a while

***THE BOUNCER*** · #2 03-03-08, 02:11 PM

sucks bro. i would take off for a a few weeks on upper body and start back light. if it is still giving you problems in the weeks to come, dont wait to long to go see a doc.

Mr incredible · #3 03-03-08, 02:39 PM

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sucks bro. i would take off for a a few weeks on upper body and start back light. if it is still giving you problems in the weeks to come, dont wait to long to go see a doc.

Thanks bro, I'm really depressed about it, just had my late meal and walked around a bit, its in the shoulder where the front meets the arm pit. The thing is I haven't flat benced in ages, last week I started and I should have rested more in between, my shoulders were tight and I only did chest tonight because my lower back is still tight after deadlifting on saturday, I shoulda been doing legs.

Hopefully its not too bad tommorrow, its definitely only a small tear at most. I'll just focus on other things for now. I should have spent more time getting used to the movement but I did 170kg last week and thought well I did that so I'll do 180kg this week

I should have listened to my body

dna9488 · #4 03-03-08, 03:50 PM

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Thanks bro, I'm really depressed about it, just had my late meal and walked around a bit, its in the shoulder where the front meets the arm pit. The thing is I haven't flat benced in ages, last week I started and I should have rested more in between, my shoulders were tight and I only did chest tonight because my lower back is still tight after deadlifting on saturday, I shoulda been doing legs.

Hopefully its not too bad tommorrow, its definitely only a small tear at most. I'll just focus on other things for now. I should have spent more time getting used to the movement but I did 170kg last week and thought well I did that so I'll do 180kg this week

I should have listened to my body

I had the same injury (i think) a year back. My doctor said its an inflammed frontal rotator cuff tendon. Bascially connects your shoulder to your pec. I fucked it up while doing DB shoulder press. I heard like 8 pop's and crackles in my left shoulder. It was bad becuz i couldn't lift shoulders for 3 months. My doctor put me on Naproxen, and i was icing that region 4 times a day for 15min. intervals. It killed my strength and i couldn't lift heavy for upper body, just legs i was going heavy. Even to this day my left shoulder will give out and get tired much faster than my right shoulder. Same with bench, curls, and tricep extensions. I recently started lifting heavy on my shoulders, and NOW i am seeing gains, 5 months after my injury is a lot bro. Just be very careful and don't push yourself too much. Take it easy for a while, because shoulders are very important IMO. Make sure to ice that area, take pain killers, and see a doctor ASAP. Good luck.

Mr incredible · #5 03-04-08, 06:24 AM

thanks dna, I saw my chiro/physio today who gave the whole shoulder pec area a really hard massage yikes it was deep. It looks like its where the front delt meets the bicep tendon and pectoral insertion point, and luckily its not too bad. I have full range of motion and it seems like more of a fray than a proper full tear.

I'll wont do shoulders this week now and I'll see how the week turns out, hopefully next week I can start bach with 15 rep sets with slow soft form on chest and shoulders and see how it goes.

NYCmitch25 · #6 03-04-08, 07:18 AM

skip all overhead pressing along with bench - use cable machine for chest go light

***THE BOUNCER*** · #7 03-04-08, 09:22 AM

i would still take about 2 weeks off from the gym. maybe do some legs and cardio but thats it. give it a good shot at healing.

dna9488 · #8 03-04-08, 02:05 PM

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thanks dna, I saw my chiro/physio today who gave the whole shoulder pec area a really hard massage yikes it was deep. It looks like its where the front delt meets the bicep tendon and pectoral insertion point, and luckily its not too bad. I have full range of motion and it seems like more of a fray than a proper full tear.

I'll wont do shoulders this week now and I'll see how the week turns out, hopefully next week I can start bach with 15 rep sets with slow soft form on chest and shoulders and see how it goes.

ya man, no problem. Did the doctor put you on any Medication??? Did he also give you any exercise routine's to perform in order to make your shoulder heal faster and heal properly???

Mr incredible · #9 03-04-08, 03:19 PM

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ya man, no problem. Did the doctor put you on any Medication??? Did he also give you any exercise routine's to perform in order to make your shoulder heal faster and heal properly???

I went straight to my chiroprocter not the normal doc, the regular doc would just give me inti inflamatories. The Chiro massaged real hard after establishing that I still had full range of motion. I' preying its not as bad as I first thought, glad I stopped right away.

its more sore now tha it was which I expected after the massage, but now I know everything is where it should be, muscle fibres lined up etc. just gona keep the protien up, vits and rest.

Moral of the storey, just because you can doesn't mean you should

***THE BOUNCER*** · #10 03-04-08, 03:25 PM

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I went straight to my chiroprocter not the normal doc, the regular doc would just give me inti inflamatories. The Chiro massaged real hard after establishing that I still had full range of motion. I' preying its not as bad as I first thought, glad I stopped right away.

its more sore now tha it was which I expected after the massage, but now I know everything is where it should be, muscle fibres lined up etc. just gona keep the protien up, vits and rest.

Moral of the storey, just because you can doesn't mean you should

a chiro really isnt the person to see. he wont be able to tell you anything about the ligaments, tendons etc. you may have a tendon holding on by a string and the chiro is giving you a deep tissue massage. lol. you should go to the doc and get and X-ray and MRI. this is what i did not to long ago to make sure everything is ok.

dna9488 · #11 03-04-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr incredible

I went straight to my chiroprocter not the normal doc, the regular doc would just give me inti inflamatories. The Chiro massaged real hard after establishing that I still had full range of motion. I' preying its not as bad as I first thought, glad I stopped right away.

its more sore now tha it was which I expected after the massage, but now I know everything is where it should be, muscle fibres lined up etc. just gona keep the protien up, vits and rest.

Moral of the storey, just because you can doesn't mean you should

I would have to agree with Bouncer. After going to my regular doctor, he signed off that i should see a specialist. After seeing a specialist he determined my condition.

Mr incredible · #12 03-05-08, 10:13 AM

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a chiro really isnt the person to see. he wont be able to tell you anything about the ligaments, tendons etc. you may have a tendon holding on by a string and the chiro is giving you a deep tissue massage. lol. you should go to the doc and get and X-ray and MRI. this is what i did not to long ago to make sure everything is ok.

ya I'll do that next week if it stil feels odd, the problem with regular docs over here is that as long as you can walk out of there ok they don't really care. Becasue its a state system its basic, over the water you all have to get private health insurance, but the upside is they probably look at you i more detail. I may have to just push hard if needs be, for now I feel sore but theres no discolouration, which there would have been after a tear and following the deep tissue massage.

***THE BOUNCER*** · #13 03-06-08, 10:15 AM

how is it feeling bro, any better?

Mr incredible · #14 03-08-08, 12:03 PM

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how is it feeling bro, any better?

feels much better actually, thanks for asking, I'm really happy I got things done in the right order and got the massage. It hurt worse and over a larger area for a couple of days but now it feels generally healed although I still know its there if you know what I mean.

It has never bled and I feel that I haven't lost any integrity but I will take it very steady now for a few weeks. I'll start with 1 plate a side and if it feelr right, move to 2 plates and stick at that for a few weeks. I think it was mainly that I haven't flat benced for a long long time and I was attempting to do a different form, elbows at 45 degrees instead of 90. It stressed my shoulder more than its used to from that angle.

***THE BOUNCER*** · #15 03-08-08, 06:53 PM

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feels much better actually, thanks for asking, I'm really happy I got things done in the right order and got the massage. It hurt worse and over a larger area for a couple of days but now it feels generally healed although I still know its there if you know what I mean.

It has never bled and I feel that I haven't lost any integrity but I will take it very steady now for a few weeks. I'll start with 1 plate a side and if it feelr right, move to 2 plates and stick at that for a few weeks. I think it was mainly that I haven't flat benced for a long long time and I was attempting to do a different form, elbows at 45 degrees instead of 90. It stressed my shoulder more than its used to from that angle.

good to hear.

Mr incredible · #16 03-12-08, 03:48 PM

well I trained chest last night and I'm really pleased with the recovery, I could feel the strangeness and a little pain in the chest/shoulder jont. I worked to 225lbs, starting on flat and did three sets at that weight, 3 sets incline at that weight also I felt really in control and got through it with no problems. Only training three nights this week and getting plenty of rest but it was a good controled comback so I'm happy. Anyone else feels something, my advice is stop right away, get anti inflamatories down, get it seen to and come back slow and controled and light. I won't be trying to press 405lb for a few months now, need to let my chest get used to flat benching again.

wnabeabeast · #17 03-12-08, 04:10 PM

I just saw this and seems like you are healing pretty good my guess is you didn't have a tear to beging with since you haven't done chest in ages it was just a slight strain. Even the smalest tear usually causes bruising it may be small but you'll still see some black and blue plus if it was a tear again the smalest tear will effect your range of motion you won't have a full ange of motion and finally if it was a tear you won't be able to do any kinda deep tissue massage because pain will be unberabal(sp) oh and one last thing this goes for anyone thinks they tore any kind of muscle please don't get any deep tissue massage, if you think you have tear and you let someone put their thumb through that tear it'll only make it worst not any better.

Anywho I am glad to hear that you are feeling better.

***THE BOUNCER*** · #18 03-12-08, 10:22 PM

i tell ya, i did flat bench barbell the other day and it bothered my left shoulder. fuck that, i am going back to my trusty DB's.

Mr incredible · #19 03-16-08, 03:53 PM

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I just saw this and seems like you are healing pretty good my guess is you didn't have a tear to beging with since you haven't done chest in ages it was just a slight strain. Even the smalest tear usually causes bruising it may be small but you'll still see some black and blue plus if it was a tear again the smalest tear will effect your range of motion you won't have a full ange of motion and finally if it was a tear you won't be able to do any kinda deep tissue massage because pain will be unberabal(sp) oh and one last thing this goes for anyone thinks they tore any kind of muscle please don't get any deep tissue massage, if you think you have tear and you let someone put their thumb through that tear it'll only make it worst not any better.

Anywho I am glad to hear that you are feeling better.

thanks bro good advice, ya I didn't think it was a proper tear, it just felt a crackle on the lift and they days after it felt pent up and stressed so the massage definitely relieved tension before anything else happened and got the blood where it needed to be

Mr incredible · #20 03-16-08, 03:56 PM

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i tell ya, i did flat bench barbell the other day and it bothered my left shoulder. fuck that, i am going back to my trusty DB's.

I'm going to do dumbells next time I train and just not go balls out on the flat when I go back till I get used to it, it definately feels unnatural after not doing it for so long. The workout I dod the other day although light really brought more depth to my lower chest though since incorporating flat