Cardio

[FrankTheTank55]

When you guys use the elliptical do you do those workouts that are preset or do you just do manual? And should you do the one for "cardio" or the one for "fat loss"?? I tried to do the one for fat loss and it said my target heart rate should be 123 so the thing kept turning off because it was like 135 or something. I had to just do the manual setting. But my question is do you really have to do the fat loss setting or cardio setting?

[THE BOUNCER]

i dont do much cardio but i always set it on manual. those preset things always confused me.

[FrankTheTank55]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i dont do much cardio but i always set it on manual. those preset things always confused me.

So what if my heart rate is higher then the target fat loss zone do you think its still doing the job? I just started cardio tonight.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by FrankTheTank55

So what if my heart rate is higher then the target fat loss zone do you think its still doing the job? I just started cardio tonight.

i always look at cardio at speeding up the metabolism and burning fat in the long run. i never look at it as burning fat at the moment of the cardio workout. i never worried about the fat loss zone and all that crap. i like to keep things basic.

[FrankTheTank55]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i always look at cardio at speeding up the metabolism and burning fat in the long run. i never look at it as burning fat at the moment of the cardio workout. i never worried about the fat loss zone and all that crap. i like to keep things basic.

Yeah that is what I was thinking. You have to move really slow to stay in that heart rate range and you dont even break a sweat. Thanks alot.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by FrankTheTank55

Yeah that is what I was thinking. You have to move really slow to stay in that heart rate range and you dont even break a sweat. Thanks alot.

yea, screw that. bottom line, burn calories, work up a sweat, and the fat will go by by.

[Nekrawulf]

whats an elliptical

[ROCKETW19]

best basic way to do it for fat loss is walk as fast as you can. the reason the machine keeps turning off is cuzz you heart rate gets to high so it trys to slow you down. If you give it time it and you will settel in and get you in the heart rate you need. that being said I never used the heart rate strap I just walked as fast as I could it was close enough.

[funniirishman]

I have wondered about this also...I have a good buddy that trains and competes regularly...He is always telling me that cardio to burn fat requires an aerobic state rather than an anaerobic state. Tells me that I should not be doing cardio any faster than I can talk and break a sweat.

Kinda weird but I am burning the winter fat-on and elliptical mostly-and was curious about this. I normally run and do sprints for my cardio--but that is for overall fitness as well as fat burning

[dna9488]

Because of my trap injury, i structured my cardio like this:

20min of rows

20min of eliptical

10min biking

I did this today, and man my metabolizm is SKY HIGH right now

tomm i am going to change it up and run on the track, than hit eliptical and rows

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by funniirishman

Tells me that I should not be doing cardio any faster than I can talk and break a sweat.

This has got to be the worst advice I have ever heard. If I followed this advice I might as well sit on the couch all day. I'm not trying to be an ass or say I know more than a personal trainer, but that makes absolutely no sense in my mind. If I walked on a treadmill at a slow speed I would sweat.

I do something similar to DNA. I warm up on the eliptical / bike for 5 min, then I do 30 minutes on that. Then I go to the rowing urgometer for another 20 minutes. Then I walk/run on the tredmill for a 10 minute cooldown. It varies, but that i essentially it.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

This has got to be the worst advice I have ever heard. If I followed this advice I might as well sit on the couch all day. I'm not trying to be an ass or say I know more than a personal trainer, but that makes absolutely no sense in my mind. If I walked on a treadmill at a slow speed I would sweat.

I do something similar to DNA. I warm up on the eliptical / bike for 5 min, then I do 30 minutes on that. Then I go to the rowing urgometer for another 20 minutes. Then I walk/run on the tredmill for a 10 minute cooldown. It varies, but that i essentially it.

i look at cardio in terms of speeding the metabolism up and burning fat in the long run. you really dont burn much fat while you are actually on the treadmill.

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i look at cardio in terms of speeding the metabolism up and burning fat in the long run. you really dont burn much fat while you are actually on the treadmill.

Well then there is something wrong with my metabolism cause I do an assload of cardio and it doesn't speed mine up. I have such an ass backwards body.

[FitnessBrat]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

Well then there is something wrong with my metabolism cause I do an assload of cardio and it doesn't speed mine up. I have such an ass backwards body.

And do you eat properly - not just quality but quantity?

[NewbieChris]

My diet is in the nutrition section if you want to look at it.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

My diet is in the nutrition section if you want to look at it.

yea, i am just not so sure you are consistent.

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

yea, i am just not so sure you are consistent.

On days when I don't eat exactly that, I'm not eating bad stuff. I'm buying chicken sandwiches and salads and making a salad with chicken. I honestly find it hard to believe that is killing my goals, because if it is, that means something has got to be ass backwards because I don't use dressing.

I mean its just getting a little ridiculous.

[funniirishman]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i look at cardio in terms of speeding the metabolism up and burning fat in the long run. you really dont burn much fat while you are actually on the treadmill.

I think that might be where he is coming from..He has competed for years and has been pretty successful, won the Masters at the Texas NPC Championships a few years ago. Whatever he does it works because he is usually dialed in for his shows...I was just curious if it was a hard and fast belief or relative to him.

[FitnessBrat]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

On days when I don't eat exactly that, I'm not eating bad stuff. I'm buying chicken sandwiches and salads and making a salad with chicken. I honestly find it hard to believe that is killing my goals, because if it is, that means something has got to be ass backwards because I don't use dressing.

I mean its just getting a little ridiculous.

So what are you saying - that you do everything right and benefit nothing?

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

I mean its just getting a little ridiculous.

sounds like genetically its just not there for ya. join a chess club or something along those lines.

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by FitnessBrat

So what are you saying - that you do everything right and benefit nothing?

I have even cut my caloric intake down to 2200 calories. I have to be expending more than that. I don't eat shit food, ever. I don't drink alcohol. I drink just about ONLY water. I have grapefruit juice in a shake and every once in a while I have gatorade in the morn with break fast. Also on days I don't eat right, I maintain the caloric intake that I am supposed to have, but sometimes I have to forgo carbs like rice in place of veggies.


Thanks for the uplifting remark B...

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

I have even cut my caloric intake down to 2200 calories. I have to be expending more than that. I don't eat shit food, ever. I don't drink alcohol. I drink just about ONLY water. I have grapefruit juice in a shake and every once in a while I have gatorade in the morn with break fast. Also on days I don't eat right, I maintain the caloric intake that I am supposed to have, but sometimes I have to forgo carbs like rice in place of veggies.


Thanks for the uplifting remark B...

you know i am just teasing ya. i just wish i could be a fly on the wall and watch how you train and how you eat etc.. i just feel like something you are doing is wrong.