Super Recuperation ?

[3v1lj03]

This is not a complaint nor am I bragging. I am looking for honest input. Both my delts and my biceps are impervious to training. Let me clarify they get stronger and they get pumped but they never grow and I never get any soreness from training them. I did say never. I have tried low reps and heavy weight I have tried moderate weight and high reps and even done down the rack kind of stuff, burn out stuff negatives all kind of stuff. I used to curl massive poundage until I hurt my brachia in my right arm. My delts on the other hand have never been very strong and part of that I am sure can be blamed on the 3 times I dislocated my right shoulder. But, even when I was lifting at 16 yrs old into my early 20s before shoulder injures they were always lagging.

Right now my shoulders Look better then they have my whole lifting career I think it is due to the cut I am on and the striations are showing but they are still lagging. This 8 week cycle has all been on the cut so I have been on high reps (8 to 15)and sets (10 to 12) as compared to the last 40 weeks on a heavy lifting routine of 4 to 6 reps and 6 to 8 sets. I rotate exercises every week here they are in order for this cycle. I do these on the same day as triceps and i do rotater cuff exercises before these. These change every 8 weeks also
odd week

Military Press
Arnold Press
cable crossovers

Even week

Upright Row
Military press
Arnold press

we can save biceps for a latter post as this one is getting long. So is there enough variety in exercises? do you thing I should do raises every week? Am I making all this up and really eating Cheetos and drinking beer in my moms basement? Should I do shoulders more often then every 7 days? Is there some secret exercise I should be doing? Do I just need to work harder?

[Chadd77]

What part of the delt is lacking? Front, side, rear? Doesn't look like you are doing any exercises for the side or rear delt.

One thing to remember is genetics play a big part too. One of my training partners does the same leg workout as I do and his legs do not grow but mine do. His legs are not proportional to the rest of his body.

[THE BOUNCER]

terrible title for the thread. lol. has nothing to do with recuperation.

from what i know of you, you have been lifting for many many years. while i am sure there are things you could add or change to get some growth out of your shoulders, the reality is that its your genes that is the biggest factor.

i had wide shoulders before i started lifting, they grew like weeds when i started doing half assed workouts. my calves on the other hand i have to murder twice a week and they make SLOW progress. genetics bro.

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

terrible title for the thread. lol. has nothing to do with recuperation.

from what i know of you, you have been lifting for many many years. while i am sure there are things you could add or change to get some growth out of your shoulders, the reality is that its your genes that is the biggest factor.

i had wide shoulders before i started lifting, they grew like weeds when i started doing half assed workouts. my calves on the other hand i have to murder twice a week and they make SLOW progress. genetics bro.

Yea. I was going to go one direction with the thread and ended up going another to get to the point. See I never get muscle soreness in the delts or biceps so are they super recuperating or just not enough stimulus? that was how I was going to go.
My calves are like that need massive stimulation. I do delts and one day and 2 days later bench press maybe I just need to add more delt exercises on chest day. I have been training biceps 3 times a week lately and I have added 1/2 " so I think they are super recuperating cause I pound them until I can't move my arms and they never get the slightest bit of muscle soreness.

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by Chadd77

What part of the delt is lacking? Front, side, rear? Doesn't look like you are doing any exercises for the side or rear delt.

One thing to remember is genetics play a big part too. One of my training partners does the same leg workout as I do and his legs do not grow but mine do. His legs are not proportional to the rest of his body.

You know you may be right I always thought the Military press hit it all. But maybe I could add some raises and flys. They were in the last cycle and I like the pump they give me so I might add them back in. I was just trying to give the shoulder joint a rest. Old joints you know need rest.

[FitnessBrat]

3v1lj03 - who is in your avatar?

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by FitnessBrat

3v1lj03 - who is in your avatar?

I put that up to show my lack of delts see how the shoulders just fall off

[FitnessBrat]

Originally Posted by 3v1lj03

I put that up to show my lack of delts see how the shoulders just fall off

So it's you? Nice

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by 3v1lj03

I put that up to show my lack of delts see how the shoulders just fall off

j/k that is Jeff Willet, IFBB Pro and 2003 Team Universe
Overall Champion all natural he says

[FitnessBrat]

Originally Posted by 3v1lj03

j/k that is Jeff Willet, IFBB Pro and 2003 Team Universe
Overall Champion all natural he says

lol, I was waiting for the *real* person

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by FitnessBrat

lol, I was waiting for the *real* person

thanks for playing

[THE BOUNCER]

Jeff is about as natural as I am. lmao.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by 3v1lj03

This is not a complaint nor am I bragging. I am looking for honest input. Both my delts and my biceps are impervious to training. Let me clarify they get stronger and they get pumped but they never grow and I never get any soreness from training them. I did say never. I have tried low reps and heavy weight I have tried moderate weight and high reps and even done down the rack kind of stuff, burn out stuff negatives all kind of stuff. I used to curl massive poundage until I hurt my brachia in my right arm. My delts on the other hand have never been very strong and part of that I am sure can be blamed on the 3 times I dislocated my right shoulder. But, even when I was lifting at 16 yrs old into my early 20s before shoulder injures they were always lagging.

Right now my shoulders Look better then they have my whole lifting career I think it is due to the cut I am on and the striations are showing but they are still lagging. This 8 week cycle has all been on the cut so I have been on high reps (8 to 15)and sets (10 to 12) as compared to the last 40 weeks on a heavy lifting routine of 4 to 6 reps and 6 to 8 sets. I rotate exercises every week here they are in order for this cycle. I do these on the same day as triceps and i do rotater cuff exercises before these. These change every 8 weeks also
odd week

Military Press
Arnold Press
cable crossovers

Even week

Upright Row
Military press
Arnold press

we can save biceps for a latter post as this one is getting long. So is there enough variety in exercises? do you thing I should do raises every week? Am I making all this up and really eating Cheetos and drinking beer in my moms basement? Should I do shoulders more often then every 7 days? Is there some secret exercise I should be doing? Do I just need to work harder?

As Chadd said you need to add in side and rear delts.
I like this
dumbell over head presses one arm at a time
upright rows super seted with the reverse peck dec (rear delts)
dumbell side raises
dumbell shrugs
I try to make it to 12 every set
I only hit shoulders 1 time per week and keep them as my last exersize for the week chest being first.

[3v1lj03]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

As Chadd said you need to add in side and rear delts.
I like this
dumbell over head presses one arm at a time
upright rows super seted with the reverse peck dec (rear delts)
dumbell side raises
dumbell shrugs
I try to make it to 12 every set
I only hit shoulders 1 time per week and keep them as my last exersize for the week chest being first.

right on thanks