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Old 09-05-08, 03:35 PM
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ROM thread question

What are peoples thoughts?

check out this clip of Dexter doing dumbell shoulder press

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I've always done full ROM, over time I see so many vids of pro's doing less than full ROM. Is it just a pre contest thing or all all season?

Do you feel it works the intended muscle as well?
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How he does them is how I have always done them. Never knew any other way to do shoulder presses. looks like a pretty full range shoulder press to me.
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Old 09-05-08, 04:17 PM
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the dumbells only seem to come down asa far as his ears, when I do them I touch the top of my shoulder at the bottom part of the movement. His elbows don't go past 90 degrees
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the dumbells only seem to come down asa far as his ears, when I do them I touch the top of my shoulder at the bottom part of the movement. His elbows don't go past 90 degrees
you touch the tops of your shoulders?? i couldn't do that if i tried. i have only ever come down to ear level and so has anyone i have ever seen do them.

i am pretty sure coming down that far takes a lot of the shoulder muscle out of the movement and more into the upper back/lats.
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Old 09-05-08, 04:40 PM
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ok, what about chest then, you touch your chest right?
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ok, what about chest then, you touch your chest right?
never do flat bench.

my chest routine is Incline DB presses, flat DB flys, and cable flys.
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I think ear level or just below is about as far as you need to go.
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I think its kind of an optical illusion. It seems like their ROM might not seem full because they are so fucking big.
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I think its kind of an optical illusion. It seems like their ROM might not seem full because they are so fucking big.
no that would work the other way since his shoulders are higher due to layers of muscle, even if he touched them he'd be some distance from the joint but he's still a ways away you can see the gap
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no that would work the other way since his shoulders are higher due to layers of muscle, even if he touched them he'd be some distance from the joint but he's still a ways away you can see the gap
oh i wasnt talking about this video or shoulder presses in particular. i was more talking about watching all those olympia guys and their lifts...
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I come down to my ear when doing shoulder presses.
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for most pressing exercises that i do i go down till my arms at about 90 degrees. any further than that i feel that i am straining too much and might cause an injury to my shoulders etc.
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I'm with the majority on this one about the shoulder press. As for chest, no I don't touch my chest.
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the dumbells only seem to come down asa far as his ears, when I do them I touch the top of my shoulder at the bottom part of the movement. His elbows don't go past 90 degrees
No shoulder/chest movements should allow for the elbow to fall below the shoulder joint - anything beyond 90 degrees on those (or greater than 70 degrees on dips) is just begging for injuries/dislocations...
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Old 09-08-08, 11:21 AM
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No shoulder/chest movements should allow for the elbow to fall below the shoulder joint - anything beyond 90 degrees on those (or greater than 70 degrees on dips) is just begging for injuries/dislocations...
So when training chest, do you touch your chest?
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So when training chest, do you touch your chest?
i dont
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No shoulder/chest movements should allow for the elbow to fall below the shoulder joint - anything beyond 90 degrees on those (or greater than 70 degrees on dips) is just begging for injuries/dislocations...
exactly what happened to me. i was goin heavy on dumbell press a while back and went to low on my right arm and tore my pectoral tendon or something i can't remember. 90 degrees is all you need.
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I go elbow to where my shoulder is, never letting it drop below. Upper arms are parallel to the ground,

I dont see how the location of your ear makes a shit of a difference.

I go to arms parallel with the floor when I do flat bench chest exercises too.
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Old 09-09-08, 08:31 AM
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I suppose its different with me, I always bring it down to my chest and that seems to send my upper arms past 90, but then maybe my forearm is longer than all of yours, they say its related to your dick size so it probably is longer than most of yours
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Bringing the bar your chest would put anyone's elbows behind their shoulder joints - stop touching your chest unless...

You've adducted your shoulder blades to the point they're touching and your rear delts are holding them into the bench - then the movement comes lower on the chest (just to/slightly below nipple line) and the whole exercise switchs to a controlled power exercise - great for overall upper body development including back, shoulders, arms and core right along with chest....

Change it up and go with neck presses or reverse grip work if you are focusing on giving yourself a change but never......

Stray away from your compound movements while staying safe - arms never below/behind shoulders....
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