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Old 12-18-03, 12:37 PM
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Training for boot camp?

My friend is enlisting and shipping out for boot camp in June. Now he asked me to train him at the gym, so he would be in shape enough for boot camp to be a cake walk. How would you go about doing this? I only know how to train like a bodybuilder.
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Old 12-18-03, 12:44 PM
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run run run run run run puke puke run run run run run run



other than that nothin will make boot camp a cake walk
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Old 12-18-03, 01:00 PM
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a lot of long distance running.....along with push ups, sit ups, chin ups....that deal...basically anything that sucks....also make him do shit to where he wants to quit and push him harder...so you can get his mind right.........mental toughness is key
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Re: Training for boot camp?

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My friend is enlisting and shipping out for boot camp in June. Now he asked me to train him at the gym, so he would be in shape enough for boot camp to be a cake walk. How would you go about doing this? I only know how to train like a bodybuilder.
cake walk? your freind will be sadly disappointed if he thinks its gonna be a cake walk.......the physical aspect of Marine Corps. boot camp is the easiest part in my opinion.

honestly i expected a lot more running and PT.
the hardest part about boot camp is the mental stress he will be put through for which nothing will prepare him for.

I assume you are talking about Marine Corps. right?
If you mean army or air force or navy then the correct term is basic training not boot camp. The Marine Corps. boot camp is the longest most grueling basic training of all branches of military, and is designed to be the most stressfull environment one has ever been through so that you learn how to preform/succeed under incredible amounts of pressure.........if you are gonna train him physically the run his ass to the ground!

if your buddy can do 100 crunches without stopping, preform 20 chin ups, and run 3 miles in 18 minutes then he will earn a perfect score on his PFT and should not have any problems physically.

did you know....
after one completes their enlistment in the Corps. they can go serve in any other branch of military w/o going through that branches basic training? but if anyone from any other branch wants to join the Marines after their enlistment is up they have to go through boot camp.
Former heavy weight boxing champ of the world riddick bowe joined the Marines and dropped out of boot camp after a matter of days! and im pretty sure he was physically fit, so that gives you a little idea of how tough it is.
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Old 12-18-03, 03:09 PM
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Re: Re: Training for boot camp?

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cake walk? your freind will be sadly disappointed if he thinks its gonna be a cake walk.......the physical aspect of Marine Corps. boot camp is the easiest part in my opinion.

honestly i expected a lot more running and PT.
the hardest part about boot camp is the mental stress he will be put through for which nothing will prepare him for.

I assume you are talking about Marine Corps. right?
If you mean army or air force or navy then the correct term is basic training not boot camp. The Marine Corps. boot camp is the longest most grueling basic training of all branches of military, and is designed to be the most stressfull environment one has ever been through so that you learn how to preform/succeed under incredible amounts of pressure.........if you are gonna train him physically the run his ass to the ground!

if your buddy can do 100 crunches without stopping, preform 20 chin ups, and run 3 miles in 18 minutes then he will earn a perfect score on his PFT and should not have any problems physically.

did you know....
after one completes their enlistment in the Corps. they can go serve in any other branch of military w/o going through that branches basic training? but if anyone from any other branch wants to join the Marines after their enlistment is up they have to go through boot camp.
Former heavy weight boxing champ of the world riddick bowe joined the Marines and dropped out of boot camp after a matter of days! and im pretty sure he was physically fit, so that gives you a little idea of how tough it is.
Hey bro one day if you get some time will you share some of your experiences in boot camp with us. I have been looking into the Marines for the past month and I like hearing stories. How long were you in for? And do you have a good job now?
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how long does this guy have to get into shape and does he have any training under his belt?
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this is the seals program


Suggested Student Preparation
The following workouts are designed for two categories of people: Category I are those future BUD/S students that have never or have not recently been on a routine PT program. Category II is designed for high school and college athletes that have had a routine PT program. Usually athletes that require a high level of cardiovascular activity are in Category II.
Swimming, running and wrestling are good examples of such sports that workout your cardiovascular system.
Workout for Category I
Running: The majority of the physical activities you will be required to perform during your six months of training at BUD/S will involve running. The intense amount of running can lead to over stress injuries of the lower extremities in trainees who arrive not physically prepared to handle the activities. Swimming, bicycling, and lifting weights will prepare you for some of the activities at BUD/S, but ONLY running can prepare your lower extremities for the majority of the activities. You should also run in boots to prepare your legs for the everyday running in boots at BUD/S (Boots should be of a light weight varity i.e. Bates Lights, Hi-Tec, etc.).
The goal of the category I student is to work up to 16 miles per week of running. After you have achieved that goal then and only then should you continue on to the category II goal of 30 miles per week. Let me remind you that category I is a nine week build up program. Follow the workout as best you can and you will be amazed at the progress you will make.

the first nine weeks:
Week 1

Running: 2 miles, 8:30 pace, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pushups: 4 sets of 15 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 4 sets of 20 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 3 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 15 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 2

Running: 2 miles, 8:30 pace, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pushups: 5 sets of 20 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 5 sets of 20 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 3 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 15 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 3

Running: No running
Pushups: 5 sets of 25 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 5 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 4 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 20 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 4

Running: 3 miles, 8:30 pace, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pushups: 5 sets of 25 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 5 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 4 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 20 min. 4-5 days/week
Weeks 5-6

Running: 2 / 3 / 4 / 2 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr
Pushups: 6 sets of 25 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 6 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 2 sets of 8 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 25 min. 4-5 days/week
Weeks 7-8

Running: 4 / 4 / 5 / 3 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr
Pushups: 6 sets of 30 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 6 sets of 30 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 2 sets of 10 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 30 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 9

Running: 4 / 4 / 5 / 3 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr
Pushups: 6 sets of 30 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 6 sets of 30 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 10 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 35 min. 4-5 days/week


Second 9 weeks:
Week 1 & 2

Running: 3 / 5 / 4 / 5 / 2 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Sa
Pushups: 6 sets of 30 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 6 sets of 35 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 10 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Dips: 3 sets of 20 dips, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 35 min. 4-5 days/week
Weeks 3-4

Running: 4 / 5 / 6 / 4 / 3 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Sa
Pushups: 10 sets of 20 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 10 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 4 sets of 10 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Dips: 10 sets of 15 dips, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 45 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 5

Running: 5 / 5 / 6 / 4 / 4 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Sa
Pushups: 15 sets of 20 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 15 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 4 sets of 12 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Dips: 15 sets of 15 dips, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 60 min. 4-5 days/week
Week 6 and beyond

Running: 5 / 6 / 6 / 6 / 4 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Sa
Pushups: 20 sets of 20 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 20 sets of 25 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 5 sets of 12 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Dips: 20 sets of 15 dips, Mon/Wed/Fri
Swimming: Swim continuously for 75 min. 4-5 days/week
As you can see, this program builds your endurance and your strength. Also, looking at this program, rest days are few and far between. Hence, one should take in an adequate supply of the necessary nutrients and water. There is no doubt that such a program as this one will work, however, doing this program requires commitment and determination. The exercises are simple - they involve no sophisticated movements or machines. After the fat has been shed and the muscle is packed on, try out for the SEALs and see if you can make it.
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whats up man im a new guy to this board just had to switch from another board cause its shutting down but anyway i am in the mililtary and honeslty the best thing he can do is run alot do pushups alot and crunches alot and get used to getting up early and goin all day..just my 2 cc's....chub
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Old 12-19-03, 04:28 PM
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Semper Fi LargeLI....former Marine here myself. I agree that the hardest part of bootcamp is the mental stress. I had a greater feeling of accomplishment graduating from recruit training than I did from high school, college or graduate school. BSH
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Old 12-19-03, 05:07 PM
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Semper Fi LargeLI....former Marine here myself. I agree that the hardest part of bootcamp is the mental stress. I had a greater feeling of accomplishment graduating from recruit training than I did from high school, college or graduate school. BSH
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Army here....I can't relate to the Corps' boot camp, but we were attached to the first MEF during Iraqi Freedom....they're a great bunch of guys, gung ho mo fo's. The physical part of basic training was not too difficult, but I was in pretty decent shape. Run, do pushups and situps, and you'll be good to go. Nothing can prepare you for the mental part of it...and I'm sure the Marines are a lot worse than we had it.....but you get used to it. The best advice I can give is to STAY POSITIVE!!!
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I went thru PI Parris Island in 1980 when they still slapped people around a good bit! The mental is much tougher than the physical of course they both go hand and hand. Examble every time you or fellow marines screw up everyone has to pay! the best physical training would be running and circuit course were you do exercises one after the other the marine corps uses this a bunch. Also boot camp is in like four phases breaking people down and then slowly building them back up. My platoon started with like 85 people and graduated with 55 so 30 couldn't hack it or were recycled put back a few weeks. Most reserve units now have a beginners bootcamp were they give them a small sample for a weekend! Anyway Semper Fi you Jarheads
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Ex Australian Army here.

Our basic was 13 weeks and was in all honesty physically not too bad. A lot of people drop out, however at the time I was playing semi pro rugby here and was 19 so was in very good aerobic and anaerobic condition anyways.
Infantry school was harder physically. A lot more upper body work, rope climbs, obstacle courses, long marches and time challenges (ie. there is a trailer with only one wheel, a log and a length of rope. How are you and your guys going to get it up the hill in front of you. You have 15 minutes. GO)

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Like every one else said the physical part is not that hard. I've some sorry assed recuits get through it. have train to the point were he can get a 300 PFT (listed above). Then all he has to worry about not being a mental pussy. They fuck with your head non stop.
The hardest part for me was not getting enough food. I've always eaten like a body builder and going to 3 meal a day and running all the fucking time I lost a LOT of mass. I dropped over 20 lbs at PI and I was less than 10% BF going in.

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[b]Like every one else said the physical part is not that hard. I've some sorry assed recuits get through it. have train to the point were he can get a 300 PFT (listed above). Then all he has to worry about not being a mental pussy. They fuck with your head non stop.


For mental tougness:
Lock him in a room for a week with an ex-girlfriend. That will be as mentally challenging as it can get
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Well it depends what branch he's going in. If it's the Air Force or navy, Training should consist of mass consumption of beer (16 ounce curls) and sitting on your ass watching Southpark. The Army isn't all that hard unless you're going to be a killer in the woods AKA a grunt. I'm in the army and I didn't have a prob. You run, push and do situps(Plus get yelled at alot). Grunts however get the shit smoked out of them. Marines are kick ass...so having said that build up your running distance to about 8 miles and you're good. Work on good push ups nice and slow all the way up all the way down. Not this head bobbing shit and situps/ crunches. 8 years of neglect under Billy Clinton has got us a little soft but George W. Bush is getting us on track.
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Like every one else said the physical part is not that hard. I've some sorry assed recuits get through it. have train to the point were he can get a 300 PFT (listed above). Then all he has to worry about not being a mental pussy. They fuck with your head non stop.
The hardest part for me was not getting enough food. I've always eaten like a body builder and going to 3 meal a day and running all the fucking time I lost a LOT of mass. I dropped over 20 lbs at PI and I was less than 10% BF going in.

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you said it man!!! not eating enough was DEFINITELY the worst part for me! i was always hungry and that put me in a shitty mood all day which made EVERYTHING harder! i went in at 165 and came out at 135!!! i didnt look a healthy 135 either, i looked sick, but felt stronger then ever.........i got back up to 165 within a couple months though.
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hoorah leathernecks! Former Marine here too!

How many of you would do it again now knowing what you know?


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i would! knowing what i know now, however, i would pick a different mos.
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I never met a ate up Marine much repect I wish all the other Arm Forces would get there shit together.
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I never met a ate up Marine much repect I wish all the other Arm Forces would get there shit together.

how long have you been in the army for?
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Army here....18 years. Done and seen alot. boot or basic is 90% mental... If you have the heart and you believe in yourself the mind can make you do some amazing things. Anyone who has been through any special military schools will tell you that.
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