forarms and calves....high or low reps?

[JACKAL]

should i try the 12-15 range or the 20-30 rep range?

[Trojanmn2]

I usually do the forearms in the 250-300 rep range...........if masturbation counts

[speedracer59]

I say 8-12 reps. If you can don any more go up in weight.

[JACKAL]

Originally posted by Trojanmn2
I usually do the forearms in the 250-300 rep range...........if masturbation counts

you shouldnt masterbate on forearm days....youll overtrain


heh heh

[Cogar]

Your calves are capable of taking high reps and high stress--perhaps more than any other skeletal muscle in your body. (Not counting the heart, etc.) For this reason, to get them to grow, you need a combination of high reps and high weight or you are not doing anything they are not already subjected to. Therefore, I would recommend keeping the reps to at least 12, and use weights as high as you can with that number of reps (of course). Pyramid the weight up to avoid a muscle pull or injuring a tendon.

[JACKAL]

Originally posted by Cogar
Your calves are capable of taking high reps and high stress--perhaps more than any other skeletal muscle in your body. (Not counting the heart, etc.)

the heart is a cardiac muscle

[JACKAL]

cool , i need to try this stuff cause my calves lag big time

Calves are definitely a hard muscle for some. I've notcied in training others that those who just dont seem to build any size need to jump on calves 5 times/week. Hitting calves with many sets at reps of 12-20 on leg day, and then the other 4 days during the week hitting 6-8 sets and going with 10-15 reps heavy. I have them switch machines daily to always hit a slightly different area. This really does work. Hitting calves just once or twice a week for most just wont work. 5-6 times/week will work great for most and will definitely increase size, muscularity and give more seperation and striations. Just my 2cc's. PEACE! KIR

[JACKAL]

5 times a week?

id rather "waste" my time tryin new workouts atmost twice a week than overtrain.

[Cogar]

Originally posted by JACKAL
the heart is a cardiac muscle

The parenthetical phrase was not an exception to the previous sentence, but rather a further clarification.

[JACKAL]

clarification of what?

LOL, never new a man who over trained calves. Arnold trained calves 6 days/week along with training rear delts 6 days/week. Problem areas! And areas that are EXTREMELY HARD to overtrain. Waisting your time? Never new someone could waste their time spending 10 minutes during a workout to hit 6-8 sets of calves. Your 10 minutes must be more valueable then others. PEACE! KIR

[JACKAL]

arnold was also taking a massive amount of steroids

[Cogar]

Originally posted by JACKAL
clarification of what?

Of the sentence, "Your calves are capable of taking high reps and high stress--perhaps more than any other skeletal muscle in your body."

[JACKAL]

understand what i am saying:

SKELETAL MUSCLES are muscles that are voluntary, ie attach to the skeleton allowing for movement. These muscles include but are not limited to muscles such as the bicep and tricep, trapezius, latissimus dorsi, etc.

CARDIAC MUSCLE is involuntary and is found in one and only one place in the body: the heart.

understand?

[Cogar]

Originally posted by JACKAL
understand what i am saying:

SKELETAL MUSCLES are muscles that are voluntary, ie attach to the skeleton allowing for movement. These muscles include but are not limited to muscles such as the bicep and tricep, trapezius, latissimus dorsi, etc.

CARDIAC MUSCLE is involuntary and is found in one and only one place in the body: the heart.

understand?

I knew it before you stated anything. The only thing you have taught me is some insight into your personality.

[JACKAL]

jeez man, sorry if i hurt your feelings... im just pointing out the facts to you..can you just say oopsy and not get upset?

Jackal, I would think that since most people are on gear, most people can EASILY get away with 5 days/week of calves. I didnt state SLAMMING calves 5 days/week. I stated hitting them hard with many sets and reps on leg days, and the other 4 days/week go with 6-8 sets. Many if your calves cant handle 6-8 reps/ed then you better sit in your lazy boy and hope you dont run into stairs anytime throughout the day. LMAOOOOOOO And Arnold being on MASSIVE amounts of steriods??????? What do you PERSONALLYYYYYY know about how many mgs/week he was taking? I personally would think was taking MUCH less then some of the people do now a days. Maybe do a little more experimenting in the gym and a little less reading and maybe you will find more ways to shock your body to grow. Just my observation of what your throwing out in the post. PEACE! KIR

[Cogar]

Originally posted by JACKAL
jeez man, sorry if i hurt your feelings... im just pointing out the facts to you..can you just say oopsy and not get upset?

If you knew anything about me, which you do not, you would know that I do admit when I am wrong. Let me make it simpler for you by making a similar comment dealing with another topic:

A Volvo is capable of taking high stress--perhaps more than any other automobile. (Not counting pickups, etc.)

Does that make it clearer?

[JACKAL]

Originally posted by Cogar

A Volvo is capable of taking high stress--perhaps more than any other automobile. (Not counting pickups, etc.)

Does that make it clearer?

*sigh*
look, this is pointless. youre not going to admit youre wrong and i am getting tired of trying to convince you of it. so you know what, ill just be the one to end this...ok? its over, who cares who is right and who is wrong, we're both here to help one another in reaching our goals. thanks for responding to my post, i appreciate it...
































but im right....

[JACKAL]

Originally posted by KeepinItReal
Jackal, I would think that since most people are on gear, most people can EASILY get away with 5 days/week of calves. I didnt state SLAMMING calves 5 days/week. I stated hitting them hard with many sets and reps on leg days, and the other 4 days/week go with 6-8 sets. Many if your calves cant handle 6-8 reps/ed then you better sit in your lazy boy and hope you dont run into stairs anytime throughout the day. LMAOOOOOOO And Arnold being on MASSIVE amounts of steriods??????? What do you PERSONALLYYYYYY know about how many mgs/week he was taking? I personally would think was taking MUCH less then some of the people do now a days. Maybe do a little more experimenting in the gym and a little less reading and maybe you will find more ways to shock your body to grow. Just my observation of what your throwing out in the post. PEACE! KIR

well thanks for your opinion, i was just voicing mine, man...

[Cogar]

Originally posted by JACKAL
but im right....

Ha. (You wish.)

Peace, bro.


BTW: getting back to the original topic, good luck with your forearms and calves.

[JACKAL]

heh heh

thanks man

Good point Cogar...lol Them Volvos are durable. LOL PEACE! KIR

One more thing. I love how a high school senior with shit for experience is coming in here telling me with more years of weight lifting and gear experience then he has been living that Im wrong about how to train calves......lmaoooooo Just an observation. PEACE! KIR

KIR, behave now. Remember, you're just a newbie here with all those years of experience. Dang! I'm going to love this place.

JACKAL, calves are my forte. The best thing to remember is strict form. Regardless your choice of sets, reps., etc. Form is paramount, bro. If you're not wincing from pain on you last rep of any set you're doing with calves, then you're not doing strict enough form. I count 5 secs. during both adduction and abduction. Get the burn in the calves so you have to walk out of the gym as though you just crapped your pants. That's working your calves, bro. Pneck

LOL Pneck, these kids bro. And I got news for you Pneck.... come look at my calves now bro. LOL I will take a digi pic soon and send to you bro. Gonna blow your mind. LOL Are you calling me today or what bro? I got some good time to talk, well after I buy my new snowblower. Mrs. KIR's Christmas gift to me. LOL Kinda like buying a wife a washing machine for Christmas huh? LOL Oh well, I wanted it. PEACE! KIR

KIR, thanks for chatting today. You're going to get that 600lb. bench yet. Hey, a snowblower ROCS! Man, I remember the day living back in WI. No thanks. I've shoveled my driveway x2 in 5 years since in OK.

Ya... send the pics of the calves. I need to see where mine are at in comparison. Thanks. Send them to pencilneck@cox.net though.