winstrol for women

[GOHAN]

My girlfriend is gonna have winstrol, 1 ml day on day off per ten weeks. What do you girls think about the dosage?

[sana]

what is your girlfriend's cycle history? what is the dosage? 50mg/ml? if so, that is way too much for EOD dosage for a woman. please post her stats, her past cycle history, her diet and her goals before we can help you better.

[Faye]

Diito.

[GOHAN]

I wanna know about 1ml / day. Its her first cycle. She wants to gain mass with definition.

[GOHAN]

Stanozolol is known because not cause water retention

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by fitness-girl
Maybe not for men...trust me a women is going to see water weight gain!! It might not be AS bad if she's on a contest diet but you seem pretty set on her doing it, so you'll see for yourself

For-shizzle, my dizzle!!!!

I HATED Winstrol....completely!! The gains were not worth the water weight and HORRIBLE estrogen rebound. I could have gotten equal results using Anavar.Why is using Winny of all things for her first cycle? And yes, the dosing is way too high.

And, again, we need to know stats, goal, diets before we can make an educated assessment. IMO, if it is truly necessary for her to start something, it should be something more mild like Var....especially for her first cyle.

[sana]

Originally posted by GOHAN
I wanna know about 1ml / day. Its her first cycle. She wants to gain mass with definition.

as mentioned above, if the concentration of your winstrol is 50mg/ml it is too much for her to do Each Other Day (EOD) - therefore, everyday would be out of the question.

if this is her first cycle, do you have the option to look at anavar? it is typically the first choice for women planning their first cycles.

also, like fitness-girl said, winstrol is known to cause water retention in women, therefore, you girlfriend may put on some good size but she will also gain quite a bit of water on cycle.

[GOHAN]

Ok, I confess we didn't know about that, but she has already begun. What must she take not to get much water weight .

[sana]

in order not to gain much water weight, she should not take the winstrol.

what is the dose you have her on? if you're doing 50mg every day, i would lower that to 25 every 4 days if you insist on doing the winny.

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by GOHAN
Ok, I confess we didn't know about that, but she has already begun. What must she take not to get much water weight .

Some dandelion root MAY help with a tiny bit of the water...but that's about all I can suggest. I tried EVERYTHING when I took it to help w/ water weight, and nothing helped.

SHE WILL GAIN WATER WEIGHT NO MATTER WHAT SHE TAKES. With Winstrol and women, it is inevitable.

.....Not to mention the HORRIBLE estrogen rebound post cycle.

[Faye]

Originally posted by GOHAN
Ok, I confess we didn't know about that, but she has already begun. What must she take not to get much water weight .

At that dose??? That's a disaster waiting to happen! And if she keeps is up not only will she see water retention, she may very well hear her voice drop, start to see stubble on her chin, lose some hair and get acne. Like Sana said, if you (she) insists on doing the wintrol, at the very least drop it back to 25-50 mg every 4 or 5 days.

[GOHAN]

Ok ladies, I thank you very much, but I have a doubt more. What are contraceptives for, when a woman is on cycle??
And the possibilites to get pregnancy?

[GOHAN]

Ok ladies, I thank you very much, but I have a doubt more. What are contraceptives for, when a woman is on cycle??
And the possibilites to get pregnancy?

[redsquirrel]

What do you mean by "what are they for when a woman is on cycle"?

[GOHAN]

Many women use contraceptives to not te get virilization, am i correct?

[sana]

virilization means the development of male like traits such as hair growth and growth in the clit size. the use of contraceptives is for pregnancy prevention - contraceptives range from condoms to birth controll pills to diaphrams.

the use of contraceptives is independent of whether you and your girl are on cycle - it is a personal choice.

virilization is something that happens as a side to introducing excess androgens into a woman's body.

i would advise that you stop your girlfriends cycle until you and her fully understand the potential impacts and sides of AAS on her body.

[GOHAN]

Contraceptves are female hormones, strogen, so they use to prevet virilization increasing that in their bodies.

[sana]

Originally posted by GOHAN
Contraceptves are female hormones, strogen, so they use to prevet virilization increasing that in their bodies.

contraceptives such as birth control pills are indeed synthetic female horomones. but they are in the low dose range and are meant to regulate a woman's ovulation (prevent ovulation - therefore preventing pregancy). the amount of horomones introduced via birth control pills, i believe, are not sufficient to prevent virilization. virilization is a side which will come regardless of the presence of estrogen and or progesteron. it is caused by the increase in the androgen amounts in your body introduced by various AAS.

there are many other people better equipped to answer the questions of the changes in a woman's hormonal axis when an androgen is introduce than i am.

but - the presence of birth control pills is NOT sufficient to avoid virilization. and most often, the introduction of an AAS will actually make your birth control pill less effective.

again - i would recommend STRONGLY that you stop your girlfriend's cycle as you and her obviously have a lot more to learn about AAS and women before putting her on.

and as we mentioned before, a dose of 50mg per day is too much for a first time cycle for a woman.

[GOHAN]

I thank you very much sana, but I insist on this because some factors:

1 - i am in Brazil and here oxa is almost impossible to find original, and manipulation is not possible too.

2- here many people use contraceptives pills to avoid virilization and other side effects in women, and it works, but i'd like to know more.

[Faye]

CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS DO NOT AND WILL NOT PREVENT VIRILIZATION IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

whoever told you this does not know what they are talking about, PERIOD

[redsquirrel]

I agree w/ sana 100% on this one. B/C WILL NOT prevent virlization in females when AAS is introduced...PERIOD. The effect B/C has on the body while taking AAS is that it makes the Pill less effective...it does not prevent hair growth, deepening of the voice, etc...If it did, I would think all of the women pro bb'ers would all be taking it.

You and your g/f have a lot to learn about AAS, dosing, reasonable drugs for each sex. and I concur you both need to do a lot more research on AAS before entertaining ANYTHING.

[sana]

Originally posted by GOHAN
I thank you very much sana, but I insist on this because some factors:

1 - i am in Brazil and here oxa is almost impossible to find original, and manipulation is not possible too.

2- here many people use contraceptives pills to avoid virilization and other side effects in women, and it works, but i'd like to know more.

as faye and RS have both said and i will repeat again:

CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS SUCH AS BIRTH CONTROL PILLS WILL NOT PREVENT VIRILIZATION.

if it is in fact difficult to find legitimate anavar in brazil, then winny is a viable alternative. BUT i say this only under the premise that you have done sufficient research on the full impact of AAS on a female body.

and may i ask why you "insist" on having your girlfriend run a cycle? we asked previously what her stats and goals are. there are so many other aspects that could be addressed to help her achieve a goals without AAS.

[Puddles]

Gohan, please listen to these women and have your girlfriend stop her cycle now!

The AAS that men use does NOT work the same way in women. The ladies here know a lot about this and they are trying to help you and your girl. You do not want to hurt your girl, right? You want to help her!

Take a little more time, do some research in the FEMALE forums, and ask questions. When you think you've learned enough post what you think would be a good cycle for your girl and let us look at it before you start her on it.

Good luck!

[THE BOUNCER]

GOHAN, why are you asking questions if your not going to listen? You dont have a clue. Your girl is going to mess up her body from this, bottom line. Just remember, WE TOLD YOU SO.

[Doom]

This translation is probably a bit off, but bare with it anyway, bottom line is listen to what these girls are telling you

GOHAN, escutam o conselho dado, se você não souber, então você devem pagar a atenção boa a o que lhe está sendo dito. A longo prazo conservará sua menina alguns efeitos laterais sérios. Eu realizo que há muitas idéias diferentes de como as coisas devem ser feitas, mas 50mgs um a SEMANA é o a maioria que deve fazer exame, e thats que empurram mesmo o limite. Escutam estes galões, sabem o que estão falando sobre

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Doom
This translation is probably a bit off, but bare with it anyway, bottom line is listen to what these girls are telling you

GOHAN, escutam o conselho dado, se você não souber, então você devem pagar a atenção boa a o que lhe está sendo dito. A longo prazo conservará sua menina alguns efeitos laterais sérios. Eu realizo que há muitas idéias diferentes de como as coisas devem ser feitas, mas 50mgs um a SEMANA é o a maioria que deve fazer exame, e thats que empurram mesmo o limite. Escutam estes galões, sabem o que estão falando sobre

Look at you all Bilingual!!! Impressive!

[GOHAN]

The translation is terrible, lol. But i thank all for help. I think I left a wrong impression about me. I am listening e learning a lot here and i know that. I undestood very well that winny is a bad cycle for her mainly now. But she has her own choice, i am trying to help her with all the information I can, but the last choice is always from her.

I asked about contraceptives pills because it´s a very good discussion in here, I am not taking this from my head! But I aprreciate a lot all the informations.