Oats Myth: True or False

[malibu barbie]

I was at the gym the other night and talking to one of the bodybuilders. He barged his way onto a machine that I was using and gave me know choice but to rotate my sets with him. (Very much like a pirate would have!)

I was trying to atleast be civil and conversate and shared with him how I feel 100% better now that I am eating a real breakfast with egg whites and oatmeal (Thanks to Red Squirrel). I told him that I prefer the oatmeal just warm (in the microwave about 30 seconds) He told me that I was wasting my time because "Oats don't have d--k for nutritional value if you don't cook them".

He is pretty much a jerk to women so I'm not sure if he was making fun of me or not. I just played the "blond card" smiled and did not say anything.

Is this true? Do you have to cook the oatmeal until it swells to enormous proportions??

[INTIMID8OR]

Are you sure he wasn't talking about the egg whites ...I've read that about eggs but not oatmeal ...

That guy sounds like a moron ...

[wheyman]

I don't know if that's true, to me oatmeal is oatmeal. I know that this is true for rice, but I've never heard this in regards to oatmeal.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by malibu barbie

I was trying to atleast be civil and conversate and shared with him how I feel 100% better now that I am eating a real breakfast with egg whites and oatmeal (Thanks to Red Squirrel). I told him that I prefer the oatmeal just warm (in the microwave about 30 seconds) He told me that I was wasting my time because "Oats don't have d--k for nutritional value if you don't cook them".

Is this true? Do you have to cook the oatmeal until it swells to enormous proportions??

I have NEVER in my life heard about what he is referring to as far as cooking or not cooking oats...The only thing he may have been trying to say and didn't convey very well was about rolled oats. Rolled oats DO have more nutritional value than quick oats and have less of an insulin spike in the blood.

And I'm glad you feel better eating more food! Has your workout quality improved?

[Puddles]

For most foods, the more you cook them the more you destroy their natural properties and break them down. I would imagine it's easier for your body to digest oats or rice more quickly the more it's cooked but I can't imagine a longer cooking time making them nutritionally better for you.

Anyway, according to Quaker's website:

11. Does any nutrition loss occur while cooking oats?

* No. All liquid is absorbed by the oatmeal or oat bran while cooking. Therefore, no liquid containing vitamins and minerals is poured from the oatmeal/oat bran prior to eating.


BTW, the only way I can get oats down is if they're barely cooked, otherwise I gag on em.

[THE BOUNCER]

Oats have the same Nutritional value raw or cooked. tell him to stop handing out false info.

[rvgfrth4g]

I don't even warm mine up. I eat mine cold. Weird but I like it that way better.

[BadGenCD]

In fact, tell him cooking his oats could possibly increase the GI....I think...b/c doesnt cooking a lot of carbs in general increase the gi, or am i totally a douchebag and wrong? haha

[Jordan]

oats are such a staple in bodybuilding diets; if this were true we'd definately know about it.

[mastakillah]

tell that guy at the gym he's a fag for using the same machine a girl is instead of using some heavy ass free weights, FUCK YEAH! haha.

[malibu barbie]

Originally Posted by FitnessBrat

Considering it was 4 months ago....she's probably moved on, lol

:laughnew:

[Friggemall]

rotflmao

I always fed oats to my horses because they have NO nutritional value.

I eat my oatmeal raw every morning pretty much. Raw oats, raw egg whites, 2 scoops protein & flax oil in the blender chug it down and out the door I go.

[Puma]

That sounds fucking awful. Does it taste as bad as it sounds?

How many egg whites?

Puma

Originally Posted by Friggemall

rotflmao

I always fed oats to my horses because they have NO nutritional value.

I eat my oatmeal raw every morning pretty much. Raw oats, raw egg whites, 2 scoops protein & flax oil in the blender chug it down and out the door I go.

[Jordan]

Originally Posted by Friggemall

rotflmao

I always fed oats to my horses because they have NO nutritional value.

I eat my oatmeal raw every morning pretty much. Raw oats, raw egg whites, 2 scoops protein & flax oil in the blender chug it down and out the door I go.

u may already know this in which case ignore this message, but your body cant digest raw egg but you do run, i believe, a one in 20,000 chance of getting salmonella poisoning with each egg. this may not sound risky but if your eating several raw eggs every morning your really taking your chances

[Friggemall]

5 pasturized egg whites from a carton. not the greatest tasting stuff in the world, but I've had worse.

Jordan I am not a very lucky person, but I have been eating raw eggs and/or raw egg whites for at least 20 years and, knock wood, nadda problem

[coffee-guy]

Originally Posted by Friggemall

5 pasturized egg whites from a carton. not the greatest tasting stuff in the world, but I've had worse.

Jordan I am not a very lucky person, but I have been eating raw eggs and/or raw egg whites for at least 20 years and, knock wood, nadda problem

I was under the impression that "raw" eggs had no nutritional value. The only way to fully benefit from eggs is if they're cooked...

[SloppyJo]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

I was under the impression that "raw" eggs had no nutritional value. The only way to fully benefit from eggs is if they're cooked...

if they are pasturized then they are ok

[coffee-guy]

Originally Posted by SloppyJo

if they are pasturized then they are ok

Gotcha - good to know.

Thanks - you just cut my "note to self - research this shit" list down by one !

[Friggemall]

One thing I learned from it sorry this takes a gross context. We all know how bad the gas gets from cooked eggs & oatmeal & whey protein powder, within say about 3 hours of consuming them together, plus the atomic visit to the toilet. Well I get nothing doing it the way I described above.

[iceberg]

I like the oats raw.

[Control]

raw egg whites contain a glycoprotein called avidin that is very effective at binding biotin, one of the B vitamins. The concern is that this can lead to a biotin deficiency.
Egg yolks have one of the highest concentrations of biotin found in nature. So it is likely that you will not have a biotin deficiency if you consume the whole raw egg, yolk and white. It is also clear, however, that if you only consume raw egg whites, you are nearly guaranteed to develop a biotin deficiency unless you take a biotin supplement

[Control]

I used to mix two whole, raw eggs in my protein shakes, but I've read that eggs are higher in protein if you cook them.

[twizzbeats]

Ive heard about egg's having to be cooked because of an enzyme that needs to be cooked out to absorb the protein properly.

[goliath]

guys - this makes no sense. heat destroys proteins, it does not build them.

[rado]

Originally Posted by goliath

guys - this makes no sense. heat destroys proteins, it does not build them.

:bravonew:

[SloppyJo]

Originally Posted by goliath

guys - this makes no sense. heat destroys proteins, it does not build them.

Taken from YellowJacket from this thread


Eggs are essentially useless raw. The amino acids in eggs need to be heated to fully bond. Albumen in the urine is a general sign, as studies show that a significantly higher amount of malabsorbed protein (egg) was found in the urine of healthy individuals (1). Stable isotope techniques are used to determine the digestibility of raw eggs vs. cooked eggs. In another study, using this method, it was demonstrated that the assimilation of cooked egg protein is efficient, albeit incomplete, and that the true ileal digestibility of egg protein is significantly enhanced by heat-pretreatment (2). Heat-pretreatment of course being cooked.
Not to mention you have a 1 in 30,000 chance to get salmonella from a raw egg. Also, if you blend raw eggs or whatever, you can break up the chemical bonds of amino acids where as cooking them can hook the bonds together, which inevitably is the objective.


(1) Amount and fate of egg protein escaping assimilation in the small intestine of humans.
Evenepoel P, Claus D, Geypens B, Hiele M, Geboes K, Rutgeerts P, Ghoos Y. Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology, Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Louvain, Belgium.

(2) Digestibility of cooked and raw egg protein in humans as assessed by stable isotope techniques.
Evenepoel P, Geypens B, Luypaerts A, Hiele M, Ghoos Y, Rutgeerts P. Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology and Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Leuven, Belgium.