proviron?

[ROCKETW19]

my girl is 122lbs very lean and wants to mess with a-var but i think she should start with something easyer like proviron. i take 50mgs ED while on cycle but i have no clue for a woman. also will this harden her up like it works for me? will it even work by itself or should i have her ad in a-var? thanks for your time!

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

my girl is 122lbs very lean and wants to mess with a-var but i think she should start with something easyer like proviron. i take 50mgs ED while on cycle but i have no clue for a woman. also will this harden her up like it works for me? will it even work by itself or should i have her ad in a-var? thanks for your time!

If she's very lean....Why does she want to take this

[beefcake]

Proviron seems like a very androgenic drug for a female to be taking. It may lean her out, but are the sides worth it? RS would probably know better.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by rado

If she's very lean....Why does she want to take this

she wants a lil more size thats why she wants a-var it was my idea for proviron but i realy have no clue how women react to these things!

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

she wants a lil more size thats why she wants a-var it was my idea for proviron but i realy have no clue how women react to these things!

More size

But why? Is she going to compete? I don't agree with it.

[TUFFGUY_67]

Proviron is the WORST choice for a female...

It will give more side effects than a Test cycle

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by TUFFGUY_67

Proviron is the WORST choice for a female...

It will give more side effects than a Test cycle

its a good thing i asked cuzz i realy am clueless about women and gear. thanks bro.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by rado

More size

But why? Is she going to compete? I don't agree with it.

bro im not gonna compete either but i want more size. just like im sure you do! when i say more size i dont mean shes gonna take test or anything.

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

bro im not gonna compete either but i want more size. just like im sure you do! when i say more size i dont mean shes gonna take test or anything.

What I should of said is that if she's looking for more size(which I'm sure is not much)...Why take that for a few extra pounds...Train her with weights or get her a trainer, do the diet, sleep, etc...I'm content with my size for now, been this way for 2yrs with gear...Now if you would of said, my girl wants to pack on some muscle or is going to compete, then maybe...But not for a couple of pounds....Do you realize how much of a difference 2-3lbs of muscle looks on a lady as oppose to a guy?

Those 2-3 maybe 4lbs of muscle is a huge difference for the ladies.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by rado

What I should of said is that if she's looking for more size(which I'm sure is not much)...Why take that for a few extra pounds...Train her with weights or get her a trainer, do the diet, sleep, etc...I'm content with my size for now, been this way for 2yrs with gear...Now if you would of said, my girl wants to pack on some muscle or is going to compete, then maybe...But not for a couple of pounds....Do you realize how much of a difference 2-3lbs of muscle looks on a lady as oppose to a guy?

Those 2-3 maybe 4lbs of muscle is a huge difference for the ladies.

shes stuck she has been workin out for 7 years i have trained her for the last 3. her diet is realy good she not super ripped but very lean. im a lil scared to mess with the diet for size as it will mess with her definition. and your right i have no clue what 3-4lbs would look on her shes half my weight so thing dont look clear to me. maybe one of the girls will come by and give some better light on this a-var thing and how it reacts in women!

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

shes stuck she has been workin out for 7 years i have trained her for the last 3. her diet is realy good she not super ripped but very lean. im a lil scared to mess with the diet for size as it will mess with her definition. and your right i have no clue what 3-4lbs would look on her shes half my weight so thing dont look clear to me. maybe one of the girls will come by and give some better light on this a-var thing and how it reacts in women!

Little weight of muscle on a woman, is a big difference than on a guy...Now let me clarify myself here...If you're speaking about prof bb'rs who want to weigh like a man, then it's another story.

But if you grab a lean(as you say) lady that's height is around 5'1"-5'5" with the weight of 105lbs-125lbs and put on about 3-5lbs of muscle...Well IMO, you WILL be able to tell those few lbs...Now obviously the numbers of height and weight can and will vary on body type; endo, ecto, etc....You should post her pics up and let some of the ladies chime in.

[ROCKETW19]

shes 5-5 i belive maybe 5-4 at 122lbs pictures no way bro. i wont even put a picture of myself up. if one of the mods needed a picture to help with something i would e-mail it to them but other than that not me bro.

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

shes 5-5 i belive maybe 5-4 at 122lbs pictures no way bro. i wont even put a picture of myself up. if one of the mods needed a picture to help with something i would e-mail it to them but other than that not me bro.

lol....ok about the pix...well wait and see for more responses..

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

shes stuck she has been workin out for 7 years i have trained her for the last 3. her diet is realy good she not super ripped but very lean. im a lil scared to mess with the diet for size as it will mess with her definition. and your right i have no clue what 3-4lbs would look on her shes half my weight so thing dont look clear to me. maybe one of the girls will come by and give some better light on this a-var thing and how it reacts in women!

Well, first of all, a gaining diet for a female is NOT going to totally F her up. The whole goal of this whole lifestyl is to add more mass...which you said she wants to do. In order to do that, she's simply going to have to eat. No two ways about it. Now everybody says they eat clean, but I want to see her diet. It's quite possible her road block is due to 1 of 2 things: not eating enough, or not training hard enough, or in the right way

Secondly, Proviron WILL NOT lean her out, and the rebound effects from it are felt for MONTHS. It absolutely can F her up for quite awhile. And, for what? To get leaner for 3 weeks??? because that is the absolute MAX any women should really take Proviron. In fact, most women only take it pre contest to help get that extra bit of fat off. Do you even know what Proviron does to a female?

As for the Var suggestion, I want to see how she eats and trains before I make any recommendations....

[rado]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

Well, first of all, a gaining diet for a female is NOT going to totally F her up. The whole goal of this whole lifestyl is to add more mass...which you said she wants to do. In order to do that, she's simply going to have to eat. No two ways about it. Now everybody says they eat clean, but I want to see her diet. It's quite possible her road block is due to 1 of 2 things: not eating enough, or not training hard enough, or in the right way

Secondly, Proviron WILL NOT lean her out, and the rebound effects from it are felt for MONTHS. It absolutely can F her up for quite awhile. And, for what? To get leaner for 3 weeks??? because that is the absolute MAX any women should really take Proviron. In fact, most women only take it pre contest to help get that extra bit of fat off. Do you even know what Proviron does to a female?

As for the Var suggestion, I want to see how she eats and trains before I make any recommendations....

Well said....I also would say that all of us here say we eat clean or eat enough...But I can also be sure that it's not the case...Good post/\

[Shibby]

I'm going to chime in and agree with the common sensus. I don't think adding drugs for less than 10 extra lbs is a good idea for the long run. Also it hasn't been mentioned, but incase it's not understood: If she starts using the drugs she will need to eat more anyways to get them to work, just like when you use.

[rado]

Originally Posted by Shibby

I'm going to chime in and agree with the common sensus. I don't think adding drugs for less than 10 extra lbs is a good idea for the long run. Also it hasn't been mentioned, but incase it's not understood: If she starts using the drugs she will need to eat more anyways to get them to work, just like when you use.

Drugs are a more of supplement I would say...A supp with more potency...If you buy regular supps at a nutrition store and do no work, you get nothing...Same goes with AS...I think she should not take anything, period...have her post the diet and training...

[Shibby]

Rado, for someone who dosn't think before they type, you sure are quick to try and find errors in what someon is trying to say.

To emphasize my point I think AS is an extreme choice for her goals. There's not much difference in her wanting to take some var and some teen looking to use AS because he dosn't have the patience either to get it done right. The quick fix asspect. No matter how hard of a gainer she may be, the possible side effects AS have on women isn't worth it for her goals.

[rado]

Originally Posted by Shibby

Rado, for someone who dosn't think before they type, you sure are quick to try and find errors in what someon is trying to say.

To emphasize my point I think AS is an extreme choice for her goals. There's not much difference in her wanting to take some var and some teen looking to use AS because he dosn't have the patience either to get it done right. The quick fix asspect. No matter how hard of a gainer she may be, the possible side effects AS have on women isn't worth it for her goals.

Wasn't trying to do that...Not to you, maybe another person, but not you

[ROCKETW19]

1) 4 egg whites 1 egg
bowl of flax seed cereal
2) iso pure mango whey shake
3) 4-6ozs turky 1cup white rice and brocli(sp?) mixed all together
4) PWO 25gs iso pure whey choclate shake + flax
5) dinner realy depends but usally some sort of chicken
6) also depends but usally flax cereal or cottage chesse+peaches or another shake
snacks on almonds in between meals if she is hungry but pretty much sticks to this diet ED.
training split
chest- tri
legs-abs
back -bis
shoulders -abs
cardio about 4 days a week 30-40mins fast walk only with incline up and down

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

1) 4 egg whites 1 egg
bowl of flax seed cereal
2) iso pure mango whey shake
3) 4-6ozs turky 1cup white rice and brocli(sp?) mixed all together
4) PWO 25gs iso pure whey choclate shake + flax
5) dinner realy depends but usally some sort of chicken
6) also depends but usally flax cereal or cottage chesse+peaches or another shake
snacks on almonds in between meals if she is hungry but pretty much sticks to this diet ED.
training split
chest- tri
legs-abs
back -bis
shoulders -abs
cardio about 4 days a week 30-40mins fast walk only with incline up and down

Any vitmanis in here for her Folic Acid and B supplement?

I would keep arms together with Chest....Rest....Legs/back....Rest...Shoulders...Rest...Keep the cardio at 3 days, not 4 since she wants to add some muscle...Where are her complex carbs? Not enough to bulk...Omega's, Add some Amino tabs, and drink plenty of h2o...I know you'll have some of the diet guru's voice something better, so good luck to her....Her weight training(I'm better with this) should be at a lower intensity, rather than high for bulking.