Well, I am just F-ing PISSED

[redsquirrel]

So, as you all know, I've had a terrible time trying to get pregnant. I finally did last November and had a late miscarriage at 4.5 months. I stopped taking all AAS and associated supps, etc. We have been trying since the miscarriage.

Now, I'm not "pissed" so to speak, BUT- some good friends of ours just found out they are pregnant. Sonis was actually doing her diet for her and the USA's. Well she decided not to do the show. Come to find out, she's now 8-10 weeks pregnant. Which means- she was on "stuff" when they conceived. In addition, her husband had a battery of tests done, and was told he had a genetic disorder and he doesn't produce very much sperm.

I don't understand how a female can get pregnant while taking AAS if it supresses hormones, and disrupts the menstrual cycle.

If she can get pregnant, why can't I get pregnant?

[Mr incredible]

Try not to stress, from what I've heard it takes the average couple around a year to get pregnant.

In terms of your freind getting pregnant while on AS, while this may be unual in the sense that AS can reduce fertility, the real issue is that its IMO actually unethical to be having unprotected sex while the woman is on AS. Its with the woman on that deformaties can potentially occur to the sexual organs of the feotus. Its never been proven because it would be medically unethical to test.

Your doing the right thing; stay off, eat well and varied, the healthier you are the more chance of concieving and the healthier the baby when you do.

[Shibby]

I am with Mr. Incredible on this. Who knows what kind of problems that baby might be. RS, I couldn't try to imagine the stress you are going through with all of this. But you have to try and remember that getting stress can make things harder. So instead of getting upset about "why her and not me", just relax and know it's going to happen to you, when the time is right. When the time is right for you and the baby to come out of the pregnance as healthy as can be.

[bad14u]

RS...I have to agree with Shibhead on this one. Don't stress over it. Try not to think about it. I know that is easier said than done, but you must try. The more you think about it the longer it will seem to take to happen...kind of like watching water boil. While you and Sonis have more time to try to conceive, also use this time to make sure you have all your ducks in a row so that when that beautiful little boy or girl gets here you are well prepared.

I wish you two the best of luck, and I will keep you in my prayers.

[trip]

ALL THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON AND THEY SERVE OUR PURPOSE


heartache, for sure, RS

try and be happy for her

the world works in mysterious ways, or so i've heard, when you least expect it, miracles happen

[ROCKILLER]

I totally agree with Trip on this one. The past couple of months have shown me that life isnt perfect but things do seem to fall into place even though they may not seem to be at first. Focus on the fact that you have a good solid base for building a wonderful family and the rest will come when it is ready.

[beefcake]

My brother and his wife were lucky enough to conceive this april. The doctors said she would never conceive due to uterine scarring. She started using clomid, I got him on proviron, and it happened. Things just take their course and luck happens. Just stay in good spirits and don't let it get you down. Stay motivated and try to be optimistic. Stressing on it is just going to do worse for you and your body. Never quit trying.

[redsquirrel]

Thanks, everyone- really. I know I need to be patient, but I thought I had gotten over the challenge of actually "getting pregnant" since it happened in November. My Dr said the first challenge was over...I guess I was expecting not to have these issues yet again...I am happy for the other couple. But on top of everything- she actually had a boob job at or right after her surgery!?!? Which makes it that much more unbelievable! She was on Primo and then tapered w/ Var running GH up until about 2 days ago. I guess I didn't even think about the serious risks to the baby. I was still trying to understand how it could've happened in the first place

BC- Sonis is actually taking a couple shots of HCG during the "fertile times".

[xxxkazxxx]

Your definately beating your head against a brickwall with the *why her & not me* scenario RS. Especially when it comes to reproduction. Everyones situation is unique. I think if you know within yourself that you are doing all you can, wether it be via your diet, medical intervention, spiritual, then you really cannot do more than that. The end result is out of your hands.

And dont forget the science of it all. It's only possible to fall pregnant about 3 days out of a month. Thats only a 10% chance. So not only do you have to get that timing right, the sperm also has to manage to stay alive long enough to get to the egg, not to mention the other factors that affect conception like temperature, stress, diet, age etc. With the amount of women falling pregnant you would think its an easy task, but when you consider the odds, its actually not. So don't give up. Especially since you have on your side that you ARE capable of falling. That is a definate positive!

[Mr incredible]

I think this is the first thread I've seen since joining where everyone has agreed with each other

[redsquirrel]

Thanks, kaz.

And you know the absolutely MOST frustrating thing- I STILL haven't lost any weight!!!!
30 days ago, I started doing 2 a days. 3-4 days a week, at lunch I go and do 30 min of cardio. Then after work 4-5 times a week, I go do weights, and another 30 minutes of cardio. I've been eating GREAT 85% of the time. Only time I'm really cheating is Fri & Sat night meal w/ a couple cocktails.

So, that- and my other frustration really has me down.

[dreamgirl]

Hi RS, I am sorry for your frustration. I'm positive it will happen for you. I don't know when or the frequency you are trying, but here's how I figured out when to try for a baby... maybe you aren't doing it the same as what we did... here's us:

when you get your period (day 1) count on a calendar to day 14. then figure every other day around there which would be day 10, day 12, day 14, day 16 and day 18.... try each one of those days (or nights )

MAKE sure your hubby is NOT, how do I put this, ejaculating at ANY time from days 9 - 18. The 19th and after he can go to town, but NEVER during. Remember he needs to save up his sperm so he can give you everything.

Make sure that you don't do any of the days in between because hubby can't produce sperm that quickly so you then reduce the amount every consecutive day.

**** If you are already doing this - just disreguard, but sometimes when I talk to my friends they can't believe we had this set schedule. It did work for us, my daughter was conceived on the 3rd month of trying and my son the 1st!

You have to let me know if this is what you have been doing.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by dreamgirl

Hi RS, I am sorry for your frustration. I'm positive it will happen for you. I don't know when or the frequency you are trying, but here's how I figured out when to try for a baby... maybe you aren't doing it the same as what we did... here's us:

when you get your period (day 1) count on a calendar to day 14. then figure every other day around there which would be day 10, day 12, day 14, day 16 and day 18.... try each one of those days (or nights )

MAKE sure your hubby is NOT, how do I put this, ejaculating at ANY time from days 9 - 18. The 19th and after he can go to town, but NEVER during. Remember he needs to save up his sperm so he can give you everything.

Make sure that you don't do any of the days in between because hubby can't produce sperm that quickly so you then reduce the amount every consecutive day.

**** If you are already doing this - just disreguard, but sometimes when I talk to my friends they can't believe we had this set schedule. It did work for us, my daughter was conceived on the 3rd month of trying and my son the 1st!

You have to let me know if this is what you have been doing.

That TOTALLY helps. And, no it's not what we've been doing. I've been charting my temperature to try and pinpoint it from when my temp goes up. I think I came within about a day or so. I'm also going to start taking those pee stick ovulation test thingy's. The problem of course with that is my periods...last month I was 2 weeks late, and this month I was a week late. So, it makes it hard to count backwards from when it does come.

I do have one question about your method (other than the sperm thing). So, let's say we are doing it every day- you're saying that by doing this everyday, the sperm get less and less? Makes sense!

I will for sure tell hubby NO beatin it during that time! LOL.

[xxxkazxxx]

Imagine a big bucket full of water RS hanging with a small valve that is leaking day by day on day when you dont need it. Come the important days when you really need the water, its almost all gone. Now imagine a sealed bucket & on the important day when you need th ewater, you let it open and you have a plentiful supply of water. Does that make sense? Cause god I talk alot of shit.

Basically, you dont want to waste the sperm is what DG is saying. Its important to keep as much sperm as possible and utilise it at the appropriate time, rather than waste it on days when fertilisation wont happen regardless.

But with your periods being all over the shop, it's gonna be hard to judge

And maybe the new treadclimber might see you lose the weight you want Sweat it out!!!!!

[redsquirrel]

Thanks, K...makes sense

As for the weight thing- I see all of these peeps on TV who dropped 2 freakin dress sixes in 6 weeks and lost 12 lbs...Here I am almost at that mark, w/ my post baby boady, and NO weight loss.

It's just been a really tough year

[dreamgirl]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

That TOTALLY helps. And, no it's not what we've been doing. I've been charting my temperature to try and pinpoint it from when my temp goes up. I think I came within about a day or so. I'm also going to start taking those pee stick ovulation test thingy's. The problem of course with that is my periods...last month I was 2 weeks late, and this month I was a week late. So, it makes it hard to count backwards from when it does come.

I do have one question about your method (other than the sperm thing). So, let's say we are doing it every day- you're saying that by doing this everyday, the sperm get less and less? Makes sense!

I will for sure tell hubby NO beatin it during that time! LOL.

With late periods it's going to definately be harder to do, but maybe open up the window longer towards the end... I think I said stop on 18, maybe go also on days 20 - 22 - 24... that way you are also getting ovulation when you are later than a normal 28-30 day cycle.

yes to the question about doing it everyday. everyday gets less and less, so that after a week, he would hardly be able to replenish his sperm... and that might be the exact time where you are ovulating.

and yes, no making himself happy, save the sperm! funny!

[beefcake]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

I will for sure tell hubby NO beatin it during that time! LOL.

Easier said than done. Especially while on test. LOL