Winny or Anavar?

[SHOT]

Originally posted by fitness-girl
Oh 'S'! You just opened up a new can of worms shot!! lol j/k

LOL....i dont see why she would take offense to this....im not a guru on females and steroids but i have read alittle....


Just thought i would get some convo started about this since her thread was hyjacked lol

[SHOT]

Originally posted by fitness-girl
I'm just messin w/ya SHOT. MY RS is a sassy one and its always fun to see what her response will be She's called redsquirrel for a reason lol

Love ya RS

Im more then ready to go toe to toe with anyone when it comes to steroids.

[redsquirrel]

Then, bring it, baby!

For one, I know the Primo is legit. Trust me on that one. The last time I did it, I had tremendous results when run w/ Anavar (15mgs) AND only ran it then for 5 weeks. I made fantastic gains when running it for that period of time. I't's possible it could have done more, but I chose it that way for a reason.

Now, as for my cycle choice. The first time I did Anavar, I went up to 15 mgs/ day. 20 is suiting me just fine. And, if you take 30-40 on a bridge, then I'm not understanding why you think my 20 on a real cycle is too much. I seem to have quite a high tolerance. Mind you, this is AFTER 5 cycles. 1: anavar for 5 weeks, 2: EQ for 6 weeks, 3: Prop/Var for 5 weeks, 4: Primo/Var/GH for 5 weeks, 5: winstrol for 6 weeks

There are 2 reasons for my cycle lenghts: 1) I chose to run my cycles at shorter periods so I am able to recover properly (= time off as on) and run another one in a shorter time period. 2)So, in essence, I'm able to run more cycles in a year. Don't worry, you're not the first to bauk me on running the short cycles. They have worked for me well up to this point. So, this 8 week cycle is quite a big step for me. The only thing I know I will not like is taking extended period off than usual...we'll see.

[SHOT]

Well there is a couple reasons why i posted this.....

1. when i deal with females and steroids i always like to keep the dose low as possible...i found that many females can grow really well with just 10 mg of var....sure they can go higher...but i would hate to train a female and have her get all kinda androgenic side effects. This makes me feel safer personly....

2. I didnt say your primo is fake....but lets be real. Do you think you ran enough primo and eq to tell the difference from them? I surely cant and i ran alot of primo and eq.....most fake primo is bunk gear....its low dose eq...which fool ppl because they still get gains...but its really from the eq...not the primo....90% of the fake primo never even gets posted about online because ppl just cant tell the difference inless its tested......

I see that you said u had a high tolerance and need to run higher dose.....Yeah i used to think this to when i first started to cycle. I then found out that even tho i thought i had a good diet...it really sucked....then i started to grow more from 600 mg of test then i did when i was stacking 3-4 different things....

I have trained a decent amount of females...some used some didnt.....i am still rather new to females and aas ill admit...so dont take my post as me calling you out...the females i trained that used ass got extremely good gains with very little steroids....10-15 mg of either var or winny and most of them were bigger then you(ok after reading this..its sounded mean..i didnt mean to and not sayin your small lol)..what really made all the difference was there diet i set up for them...

I havnt talked with many females who ran HGH....how many iu per day did you run it and for how long? 5 weeks? I would like to hear how the results were...i know i dont even start seeing the results from HGH intill i been on for atleast a good 16 weeks....does it kick it much faster for females?



But good luck with the cycle and with your show

[sana]

RS, you only ran the GH for 5 weeks? why such a short period and what do you think you saw from that? meaning, from all the personal experience of ppl i've spoken with on GH, 3-4 months is the min to start seeing results and 5 weeks is how long it took them to get used to the sides of lethargy and water retention. have you ever thought of running it for longer?

[SHOT]

Originally posted by sana
RS, you only ran the GH for 5 weeks? why such a short period and what do you think you saw from that? meaning, from all the personal experience of ppl i've spoken with on GH, 3-4 months is the min to start seeing results and 5 weeks is how long it took them to get used to the sides of lethargy and water retention. have you ever thought of running it for longer?

Bump...this is what i was asking about as well.

[redsquirrel]

Umm, sorry I didn't clarify about the GH...I've been taking the GH for,.........let's see........8 MONTHS???? And I continue to see my body changing. Basically ever since the Primo/Var cycle....I am still using it today, and my dosing is 4 IU on cycle, and 2 when off cycle. My results are tremendous, My body compostition has changed dramatically. I have noticed fuller muscle bellies, mature shoulders (which I have weak shoulders) and BF loss in places that diet alone could not remedy.

Shot- I understand your position. And my cycle length and dosing is my perrogative. I hope your comments are out of concern and not disgust. These cycles were designed to make maximum growth from short cycles, the main key being maximum calories...about 4000 at peak. The other reason I chose the shorter cycles is if there are androgenic effects that I am not comfortable with or don't like, it takes a shorter time to get out of my system. Here is an example of my reasoning for higher doses: my last cycle was Winny. I started at 5, then 10, then I was to max out at 15. However, I was seeing no benefits weight wise or strength wise. I then upped the dose to 20, and started seeing results.

I also have heard the same about EQ/fake Prim. However, my sides and results on EQ were far different than on Primo. I had much less water retention on Primo, better lean muscle gains and strength gains.

I hope this clears it up, and I truly appreciate the tactfulness everyone used here. This is exactly how these boards are supposed to work.

BTW- Shot, I didn't take offense about being small at 150...I'm only 5'4".

[SHOT]

The HGH i just going to get better with time...

ever think about usein IGF-1?

[redsquirrel]

Funny you say that....my really good friend will be starting on the IGF-1 when I start the Primo...My friend did it, and now it's their turn.!

[SHOT]

what dose are you useing? What dose did he use and how did it like it?

Ill be running 80-100 mcg per day ..4 week on 4 weeks off pretty much all of 2004 if i like it...

[redsquirrel]

My friend liked it for the most part. He/she really didn't use it to it's fullest potential, though. He/she did see more fullness, and loss in BF. He/she used it for 4 weeks. Not sure about his/her dosing, but I think it was around 80...at least that's what I translated the slin pin to be.

I think my other friend's dosing will be about 40mcgs/day for 4 weeks. The only thing I would dislike about it is the fact that it is not created by a company per say...like GH. It's created in a lab, and I just don't like the higher risk involved in something like that. You know, like they can put whatever they want it...And I'm also a bit apprehensive about him/her doing it intermuscularly. Just looks like it's gonna hurt.

[SHOT]

Understandable...

If you get it from a legit source you should be ok....when i say legit i mean a more popular one that alot of ppl used.

You can shoot it SQ you know? just like HGH...it will leave alittle bump where you shoot it tho

even when you go IM with it you still use a slin pin...which you will not even feel if you go in the delts...bis and tris with it...

[redsquirrel]

I didn't know about the SQ! That's awesome. One of the things my friends love about GH is the ability it has to "spot reduce" so to speak.

I'm sure IM it's fine, it just looked painful and like it took a bit more to push in or something.

Are there advantages to doing it IM than SQ?

The legit factor should be ok. He/she got it from one of the companies who's having some big price war with another over the net...So, obviously it's trusted and pretty popular.

[SHOT]

Well i talked with a few ppl who i trust that used the igf-1...and right now its split down the middle...

some say they like the SQ some say IM all the way....so im going to try thre first cycle IM then the 2nd SQ so i know forsure...

some ppl are saying the site injections are working great with the igf-1 and some say its all bs ...it wont wor that way

so really im going to try it....i wish i was running mine before you so i could let you know whats better but i wont start it intill feb.

[redsquirrel]

I'll keep you updated. I'm very anxious to see. I think he/she is going to do it IM first, then maybe the last 2 weeks try SQ

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by redsquirrel
Funny you say that....I'll be starting on the IGF-1 when I start the Primo...My friend did it, and now it's my turn.!

[Kitty]

I like the winny myself! BUT THERE ARE SIDES TWO THE WINNY SO BECAREFUL! AND IT DOES MAKE YOUR HAIR FALL OUT! BUT I DID GET SOME GOOD RESULTS WITH THE WINNY BUT ONLY STAYED ON IT FOR A SHORT TIME, NO Wee-Wee's lol. BUT THE PRIMO AND ANAVAR TOGETHER ARE A GREAT CYCLE. 100mg of primo a wk and 5 to 10 mg of anavar a day for 8 to 10 wks is fine I THINK. BEING THAT THE TWO ARE VERY LOW ANDROGENIC. JUST BECARE OF THE WINNY AND WATCH FOR SIDES. I DID THE PRIMO AND ANAVAR AND IN THE 4th wk added some winny to the cycle but only for a couple wks of the winny. I started taking hair vitimins after the winny and my hair got thick with the hair vitimins the over the counter ones are great for me. JUST MY 2cc's GOOD LUCK. I LIKE THE winny tabs apose to the liquid, but you can drink the winny if you dont like the shots.

[STALKER]

I GAVE ME EX GIRLFRIEND AT THE TIME 2.5MG OF BTG ANAVAR FOR A REAL BAD STRAINED ACHILIES TENDON AND COULDNT WALK FOR SHIT... WELL IN THE 8 OR 9TH DAY THE PAIN WAS GONE TOTALLY GONE.. I BET ANYTHING IT WAS THE ANAVAR.. SHE WASNT TAKING ANYTHING ELSE... THIS IS JUST A PIECE OF INFO FROM MY SMALL LIST OF FILES.. SHE TOOK NO LONGER THAN 2 WEEKS AND IT DID THE TRICK... GENERAL STALKER