T3 , Looking for personal experience only

[GreenDragon]

Any of you ladies used T3? Is so what was your take on it? What were your results. I am well aware of the inherent dangers of any AAS or stimulant use. My fiance would like to go on 12.5mcg/day of t3 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with ECA. This will be in conjuction with her third cycle this time it will be EQ @ an undetermined dose most likley 50mg/week.

thanks girls

green

[redsquirrel]

In my experience, T3 burned muscle. I took it alone with no AAS to help lose BF. My advice, if your gal obviously is wanting to put on mass but keep BF to a minumum...drop the T3 and keep the ECA, as well as a CLEAN diet. T3 has only been known to have optimum results when prepping for a show in women. My concern would be not gaining as much lean body mass as possible by taking the T3 in conjunction with it. Why exactly did she want to do T3?

[GreenDragon]

She has used clen and wasn't all that impressed by it, not to mention the damage it causes to your heart. t3 is known to work very well in most combined with AAS, I was just looking for 1st person views

thx

green

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by GreenDragon
She has used clen and wasn't all that impressed by it, not to mention the damage it causes to your heart. t3 is known to work very well in most combined with AAS, I was just looking for 1st person views

thx

green

ECA can cause damage to your heart, and T3 shuts the thyroid down. So, pick your poison here. You can run T3 with it, but T3 can eat muscle like no tomorrow. And you cannot run T3 like clen. It has to be tapered up and tapered back down.. OR you could have a major thyroid complication..It could shut it down or make it work overtime. It sounds to me like her main concern is fat loss while on AAS. Because T3 is a completely different drug than Clen..is she taking it for muscle gains, or fat loss? It IS POSSIBLE to make great gains with a good bulking diet. What benefits did you or she see by using it?

[Liftingchic]

See..i loved T3.. It didn't eat any muscle.... but i also had quite a bit of fat.. but it seems to work great..

[redsquirrel]

Did you have your lean body mass checked before and after? If you do it with AAS, it most likely won't eat muscle..if not, it will eat it up...And what does eating a lot of fat have to do with keeping/building muscle when taking T3? It's protein that I would have eaten a ton of, not fat.

[Liftingchic]

when i said "quite a bit of fat" i meant my BF% was rather high.. i ran it with clen by itself for like 4 weeks and LOST NO!!!!! MUSCLE,, now i ran it with clen and winny

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Liftingchic
when i said "quite a bit of fat" i meant my BF% was rather high.. i ran it with clen by itself for like 4 weeks and LOST NO!!!!! MUSCLE,, now i ran it with clen and winny

Just because you had a lot of BF when you ran it the first time DOES NOT mean it didn't eat any muscle. I ask again- how do you know you didn't/haven't lost any muscle? It would make sense that you wouldn't lose any from your most recent cycle...and MAYBE from running it with Clen, since Clen has some minor anabolic qualities....now by itself..I just have a hard time believeing that..UNLESS you were prepping for a contest

[Liftingchic]

I had my lean muscle mass check the day before and right before i add winny...i actually added 2 lbs of muscle mass.... Believe me or not... its cool... i know my body and i know the truth,...

[redsquirrel]

Look, I'm not saying you're lying. Sure you could have put on some LBM with the Winny AND T3, but 2 fucking lbs.????? WHY BOTHER???? I think that proves my point...T3 can eat muscle even when taking AAS. Why do T3 with Winny when you will only gain 2 lbs of LBM???
I'm getting ready to jump on some Winny next week, and I guarantee you I will put on AT LEAST 10 of LBM. That's becasue I know how to eat when on a cycle. It sounds to me as if you are cheating yourself ROYALLY by adding the T3 when taking AAS, AND you probably aren't eating enough...that would be the ONLY other explanation as to why you only gained 2lbs of LBM. Even if your BF dropped, which it always will on a cycle you're still wasting your time....let alone muscle.

SOOO, you had your LBM checked the day before what?

[Liftingchic]

ok.. i gain 2 lbs of muscle with just Clen and T3..no winny was used when i gained the 2 lbs

[Liftingchic]

it does kinda seem like you are saying I'm lying..

[redsquirrel]

Ok, then what was your BF before the T3/ Clen, and what was it after? How, exactly did you go about having your LBM checked?

[Liftingchic]

I don't feel like this is going anywhere... Other than getting me upset...so Just forget everything i said... And dont do T3 Green...

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Liftingchic
I don't feel like this is going anywhere... Other than getting me upset...so Just forget everything i said... And dont do T3 Green...

I'm just trying to get a better understanding of how you've reacted to certain drugs and why. It's definitely worth going into because these are all issues related to T3!! Why are you going back and retracting everything you said if you had such great results? For the newbies especially, why not make it clear to them and us how it worked. The explanations are just a little cloudy. We need more detail to make an objective assessment of your results.

[redsquirrel]

By not responding you are making yourself look not very credible. ..Causing people in the future to not take your advice when it may be true and work.

[Liftingchic]

First of all...I could give a Crap if you think i am creditable or not.. Why do you think i would reply to a post that i feel you are pinning me to a wall and calling me a lier...



My LBM was 125 lbs with BF of 38%


Four weeks later 127lbs with BF% of 32%

[Liftingchic]

Well i feel like RS is calling me a lier..it doesn't seem to be watching out for me...


But i am sorry about getting rude... i just don't like to feel like i am being called a Lier..or that i don't know my shit..

[Liftingchic]

But like i have said 100 times and will say it again... EVERY BODY IS DIFFERENT... SOME THING THAT WORKS FOR YOU..MAY NOT WORK FOR ME OR OTHERS...

[Liftingchic]

Wow thanks FG... how nice of you... i will pm you my diet ... but i am in the works of getting a pre-contest diet going from my nutritionist... I can pm my diet to anyone else that wants it..

[redsquirrel]

Well, I'm just having a little issue because you seem soo adamant that T3 works so great, especially w/ Clen. In your own thread "liftingchic's cycle" EVERYONE tells you that T3, T3/Clen will burn muscle...and that Winny will help you lose weight. We are just wondering how T3 spared your muscle, and Winny you lost weight..jsut a little backwards it sounds, is all I'm saying.

[Liftingchic]

ok..i am done.. I swear... everytime i give advice i get yelled at or get called a lier.....


I AM DONE!! I let the "LC cycle" post go..and didn't get upset..now i am done....

JUST BECAUSE I DON'T DO SOMETHING "NORMAL". AGAIN DOESN'T NOT MEAN ITS WRONG!!!!!.I GET YELLED AT AND PRETTY MUCH CALLED A LIER... BECUASE I DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS TELL ME TO DO...


T3 is working great for me.... i will still use it because its WORKING for me..

[sana]

Originally posted by Liftingchic
ok..i am done.. I swear... everytime i give advice i get yelled at or get called a lier.....

it's just because the advice you seem to give is usually contrary to the conventional wisdom. for example, not making significant changes to you diet and professing that clen helped you lose 20lbs. what we are trying to say is - this is bad for newbies to see because they will think that clen or t3 is a magic pill.... seemingly by the way you say it - t3 and clen are magic pills. this (IMHO) is dangerous...

that's all.

[Liftingchic]

its never ending is it....

it's just because the advice you seem to give is usually contrary to the conventional wisdom

yes conventional to what you guys thinks.. I am sorry that we aren't all alike.. if we were..than SURE i would do your guys cycles..but we are all different... example So people do great on Low Carb diets and other get physical sick from doing low carb diets...



I am really sorry that I am different that all of you..

[Akamai]

Lets see 2lbs of muscle, say over a standard 8 weeks, and she dropped 5% bodyfat those are excelent changes in body compisition. A