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Old 10-25-03, 10:23 AM
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I am going to be getting some T3 soon and it is going to be for my wife. I know nothing about T3 myself. How should she take it and for how long? And also she is just trying to get harder and loose a little cellulite and put on a little muscle. Can she do this by just taking t3 or should we add something else like Clen?
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Old 10-25-03, 05:17 PM
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Should she add some winny with it to help with the muscle? And whats the best way to do the T3 and Winny?
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Old 10-25-03, 06:19 PM
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i agree with HBG...

as for what was originally posted... NOTHING IN THE WORLD will make you lose fat AND gain muscle at the same time.

so, make a decision - cut or bulk.

my guess is she wants her bf% down... so i would go with a cutting diet + var if she really wants some AAS in there.

do some research on anavar... and get her on the board.
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Old 10-26-03, 05:43 PM
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guys, i just read this post on another board and apparently this girl is a cardio junkie who eats twice a day.

i think we all renege on our recommendations.

get her eating and lifting properly, then she'll see a difference.

no aas.
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get her eating and lifting properly, then she'll see a difference.

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FOR SURE!!!! OBVIOUSLY DIET IS NOT IN CHECK. SHE WILL HOLD ONTO ANYTHING SHE IS PUTTING IN HER BODY BECAUSE SHE IS NOT EATING NEARLY ENOUGH. SHE IS ACTUALLY AT A NEGATIVE CALORIE INTAKE! YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT THAT WAY. SHE IS ALREADY EATING MUSCLE BY DOING SO MUCH CARDIO AND NOT EATING ENOUGH...ADD T3 TO THE MIX AND SHE WILL BECOME CALLISTA FLOCKHART
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I want to thank all of you who posted about my question. You were all very kind about it, and I thank you very much. Reason saying is I also posted the same question on another board (FitnessGeared) and got pretty much nothing but Flaming and people going off on me thinking that I was just going to give it to her without more research. Thats why I posted about it. To do research and get advice. I am new to this board and so far I am very impressed with everyones knowledge and kindness!
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Old 11-01-03, 04:58 PM
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sorry dude, but i saw what happened on FG and it was YOUR fault. had we known here that your gf couldn't find her way around a weight room or a refrigerator we might not have been so understanding.

i can't believe you even asked about T3, because if you are a serious lifter yourself, you would know the effects of it on the body. you also wouldn't be looking for easy ways out.

that said, the search button does wonders. try that and a google search before you ask such questions again... there are NUMEROUS threads on other boards and here about the effects of T3 on the body, as well as women and T3.
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You dumb Cunt- How am I at fault? Explain yourself please?
"had we known here that your gf couldn't find her way around a weight room or a refrigerator we might not have been so understanding." What the fuck do you mean ? No she cant find her way around a fridge she works 12-14 hours a day. And thats as a bartender in a super high volume restuarant. She doent even have time to use the bathroom most of the time. And she still finds time to work out. Im sure thats more than you do in a week. She works out 5-6 days a week. Usually 2-3 days of weight lifting with me. And the rest cardio. She has been working out for 10 years know. She has alitte fat on her hips and so I thought the t3 would help. I ask this post because I was doing research. That why I ask. Thats what that is right? And no you cant do a search on T3 because the search button has to have more than 3 characters to search. IDIOT!
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[quote]Originally posted by jacques derrida
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i can't believe you even asked about T3, because if you are a serious lifter yourself, you would know the effects of it on the body. you also wouldn't be looking for easy ways out.

Also you cant belive I even asked about t3? Thats doing research right? What do people ask for on these boards?
And how would I know about t3? I dont use it. I have never heard of it until my buddy sugested that I get some for my girl. His girl is on t3 only and likes it? Looking for easy way out? Thats anyone who takes supplements or AS isnt it, The easy way out? Whoever you are you need to read the post more clearly and worry about yourself. I notce you not from America? That says it all!
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You dumb Cunt- How am I at fault? Explain yourself please?
"had we known here that your gf couldn't find her way around a weight room or a refrigerator we might not have been so understanding." What the fuck do you mean ? No she cant find her way around a fridge she works 12-14 hours a day. And thats as a bartender in a super high volume restuarant. She doent even have time to use the bathroom most of the time. And she still finds time to work out. Im sure thats more than you do in a week. She works out 5-6 days a week. Usually 2-3 days of weight lifting with me. And the rest cardio. She has been working out for 10 years know. She has alitte fat on her hips and so I thought the t3 would help. I ask this post because I was doing research. That why I ask. Thats what that is right? And no you cant do a search on T3 because the search button has to have more than 3 characters to search. IDIOT!
there is NO need for such language. as i've read the thread at fitness geared, you were given the right advice which was to make sure your wife's diet and training are in order before giving her T3 as it will only eat muscle. as you are also being given the same advice in this thread. work on getting your wife to hit the weights hard and get her eating right before looking for a magic solution from T3 or clen.
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there is NO need for such language. as i've read the thread at fitness geared, you were given the right advice which was to make sure your wife's diet and training are in order before giving her T3 as it will only eat muscle. as you are also being given the same advice in this thread. work on getting your wife to hit the weights hard and get her eating right before looking for a magic solution from T3 or clen.
Sorry Bouncer, I just get upset at these people who dont understand what research is. Thats what I was doing when asking the post. From the advice I got I no longer plan on giving it to her. But jacques derrida come on after me thanking everyone for their kind advice, and starts acting like I am not doing research and starts running my wife and me int o the ground. Here is her quote:"sorry dude, but i saw what happened on FG and it was YOUR fault. had we known here that your gf couldn't find her way around a weight room or a refrigerator we might not have been so understanding.
i can't believe you even asked about T3, because if you are a serious lifter yourself, you would know the effects of it on the body. you also wouldn't be looking for easy ways out."

I mean can someone explain the word research. If that not what I was doing?
I dont understand why a couple of members of FG are thinkling the same way? Can you explain why these people have the right to be like that?
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For future reference, you can easily search t3 with the search button. For all searches under the 3 character requirement, use an asterix at the end. For example, try searching T3* and see what happens...
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You got the advice in which you speak and yet it conflicted with what you want to hear. So maybe some got a little agitated.. but again, you only tell half the story here.. As you can see the people at FG gave you the same advice as you got here.. and yet you still revert to the name calling.
Next you'll ask bouncer to either ban someone or you'll leave here also..
Take the advice given to you and use it.. It comes from many years of hands on experiances. Then move on.
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You got the advice in which you speak and yet it conflicted with what you want to hear. So maybe some got a little agitated.. but again, you only tell half the story here.. As you can see the people at FG gave you the same advice as you got here.. and yet you still revert to the name calling.
Next you'll ask bouncer to either ban someone or you'll leave here also..
Take the advice given to you and use it.. It comes from many years of hands on experiances. Then move on.
Bass dude you cant read can you? Along with the flamers on both boards.
"yet it conflicted with what you want to hear. So maybe some got a little agitated".. Explain yourself bass?
No I didnt get agitated at what i didnt want to hear. What makes you think that? I was agitated at the quotes from people assuming that I was just going to give it to her. What makes you people think that I was just going to do it no matter what any one said. And the quotes from people like my wife is some dumbass because she only gets to eat one good meal per day. yes she snacks alittle here and there at work. But only one good big meal. And like I said she does alot of cardio but she does lift 2-3 days a week of weights. And she lifts heavy when doing weights. I know alot of girls who do only cardio and look better than most of the half looking guys I see at contest and on these boards.
THATS WHY I WAS ASKING. FOR RESEARCH AND KNOWLEDGE BEFORE I GOT IT. I HADNT EVEN GOT ANY YET I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT. My best friends sister takes T3 only and has one great body. I never heard of it before so thats WHY I ASKED about it. I dont understand why people have to be like this. Explain research please someone?
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Bass you did ban me from FG. Yes but like I said I was leaving anyway. That board has went to nothing. You ask a question and you get 2-3 replies. if your in the womans forum you get flamed for legit questions. Halo and Halo storm are I am sure still on FG. I mean they do do contest and can be good for FG advertising. They said more shit than I did and started the insulting and the threating. They insulted me on the post even. Called my wife names and she knows nothing about this. Yet I bet they are still members. Right? Thats Ok there are many other better boards and I will do my best to inform FG advertisers about the problem.
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Terminator - honestly, if she's only getting one quality meal a day, that has to be looked at first brother. She's got to get some MRP's at least in there. Right?
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excellent idea. If she's a bartender, she has everything she needs already. Tell her to take a few MRP packets to work. Drop one in the blender with milk or water. Drink. Can do the whole thing in under a minute. Surely someone can cover for her for a minute or two.
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What is MRP? I have been telling to her about the eating issue and she has agreed to eat better. we went to the grocery store today and got some good stuff for her to eat. I know I said that she only eats one meal per day but I meant one good meal. She does snack on stuff while at work. Just not full meals. She works in a high volume bar 12-14 hrs per day and is on her feet with little time for anything. After she start eating right we will then see about getting some anavar and then do the T3!
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my betrothed,

MRP=Meal Replacement Product ie: a meal replacement shake.

your girl DOES NOT NEED aas at this point. please listen to us. aas is for when she hits a plateau in her training, after exhausting natural routes, and proper training/nutrition. generally this takes A FEW YEARS.

since you probably aren't aware, T3 is what is given to people who are hypothyroid.. symptoms of which are extreme sleepiness, weight gain, etc.

people with hypothyroidism are GRADUALLY given a bit of synthroid (or whatever brand they are using) at a time to see how much it takes the TSH down. every few months, bloodwork is checked to see if the dosage has been enough to get the tsh between 1-2.

my point is T3 is not candy. if you take too much, you lose muscle because you become hyperthyroid. this is the full list of symptoms that can occur:

Nervousness and irritability
Increased resting heart rate causing palpitations
Hypertension (high blood pressure)
Heat intolerance and increased sweating
Tremor
Weight loss or alterations in appetite
Frequent bowel movements
Sudden paralysis
Thyroid enlargement (lump in the neck)
Thin, delicate skin and irregular fingernail and hair growth
Menstrual disturbance (decreased flow)
Impaired fertility
Mental disturbances
Sleep disturbances (including insomnia)
Changes in vision, eye irritation, or exophthalmos: significant

also, "overtreating hypothyroidism" can cause osteoporosis, or bone loss.

taking T3 on one's own scares me, frankly, because i know personally how sensitive the thyroid gland is. it's not something you want to muck up.

the point, my love, is that you are confusing research with starting a thread because you haven't bothered to look something up in the search function - which is what estanozol said.

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Way to clean it up, there Jacques!! You have given sound advice. Again, T- your wife doesn't need to be doing ANY AAS for quite sometime. She needs to eat more, plain and simple. T3 will only burn what little muscle she has. And, as jacques said could have a serious adverse effect if not used properly.You don't know how her thyroid is going to react. I have no desire to use T3 until showtime next year. IMO, there is no reason to run the risk of weight gain, and/or muscle eating, when the vanity weight can be lost through proper training and diet.
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the point, my love, is that you are confusing research with starting a thread because you haven't bothered to look something up in the search function - which is what estanozol said.
Once again thanks for the advice but dont tell me what I am and am not doing. Yes I tried to do a "search" but like I said in earlier post I tried to search and It would not let me search for 2 character words. Someone has since informed me how to do that.

Some people like myself and my wife have to work for a living and have a life where we dont have time to sit the internet all day.
If I wasnt doing research then I would have just gone ahead and ordered some t3 and just givin it to her. Right? I DIDNT DO IT. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND? I WAS DOING RESEARCH BY POSTING ABOUT SOMETHING i COULDNT FIND INFO ON. i HAVE 2 FRIENDS INTERESTED IN DOING T3 ALSO AND THEY TRIED DOING RESEARCH AND ALSO CAME UP WITH NOTHING more than what I had before these post. I have since showed them these post and they are as confused as i am. They said that from all the info they read about they didnt uderstand what your problem is?
One of these people is very well educated in health and fitness. He is working on his master in Health and Sports Sciences from the Oklahoma State Univ. has even worked out for around 18 years now and has done many cycles and he just recently found out about T3 himself. He tried to research also and is in the same boat i am. I post all the time shit like this in the mens forums. Hell I had 280 post at FG in the regular anabolic forum and not once have I got treated as I have in these womans forums. I even got a few PMs this week from people that understand what I am saying and doing and that they dont post on these forumns because of people like yourself. Know it alls with bad attitudes that dont listen to what people are trying to educate them selves on!
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T- Jacques has very tastefully tried to point out to you in his last reply that your wife is not ready for T3, or any other AAs for that matter. He has given you and your friends some very valuable information about T3, which you should use to your advantage.

There area several posts about this a couple pages back in the womens forum.You could have sifted through those without having to do a search, which I think that is the point he has been trying to make.

In his defense, I will say so many people post threads about something that has been covered very recently. Also, I willsay his information is very valuable, and however offended you may be, it is IMPERATIVE you take what he says to heart. Don't reject it out of spite.

In your defense, I can understand you getting frustrated from not being able to search for T3. And some of his tones could have been construed rudely...a little more constructiveness would have been appreciated.

Now, I'm not saying this to be rude, bt here is a perfect example of why you and your wife should not be messing around with anything right now. If neither of you know what an MRP is, it sounds like you need to have your diets reevaluated. The BIGGEST part of this game is diet. Hell, it's 90%. And if your diet is not in check, AAS is completely useless. Youwill not make the gains that are possible through proper eating, and you will not lose the BF to cut without losing muscle. This is a lifestyle change. This is not something you decide to do for 3 mos. You have to have discipline and determination because this lifestyle is not easy, nor is it for everyone. I work 40-50 hrs a week, but I make
time to cook my meals for the week, hit the weights 4-5 times a week, and do cardio 3 times a week...NOT whenI'm at the gym.

I understand your frustration with trying to help your wife. BUt what needs to happen first, is she needs to get in a routine. SHe has to plan out her day and MAKE TIME to eat her meals. Then have her weight training 4-5 times a week. She needs to put on more muscle, period. The cardio she is doing is only burning muscle because she does not eat enough.Have her do that for a month to make sure she can do it. You don't want to go messing around with something as T3 and do more harm than good. You'll be very surprised the gains she will make once her diet in in check.
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Well let me tell you my wifes diet and workout may not be in check but I guarantee you mine is. I weighed 145 at 6 foot when I graduated highschool. I then started to lift after graduating. That was 14 years ago. I got to 165 -170 naturally. People used to accuse me of doing roids even when I didnt. I used to hate juicers. I couldnt stand them. I started racing Motocross a few years ago and quit lifting. I then had several major accidents while racing and completely destroyed both knees. Had to have full reconstruction of them. I then broke my foot, collarbone and both wrist. My weight then dropped back down to 145# from all the painpills and not working out. Then a year and a half ago I started lifting again and I am now at 210#. So in your last post when you say " Now, I'm not saying this to be rude, bt here is a perfect example of why you and your wife should not be messing around with anything right now. If neither of you know what an MRP is, it sounds like you need to have your diets reevaluated." I dont think so. Mine is perfectly fine. I have very little body fat and get complements on my body everywhere I go. And yes her diet might not be right but we are going to work on that like I said!
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