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Old 12-20-03, 09:48 AM
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I am about to start my cycle in Jan. I was told to do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off while increasing my intake by a pill a day up to 5 pills a day. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Also if you know of any other side effects (i.e. headaches, insomnia, nausea, jitters, etc.) This will be my first time so any suggestions and/or advice will help. Thanks!
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Old 12-20-03, 10:38 AM
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When you say 5 pills....what is their individual dose?
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Old 12-20-03, 10:55 AM
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Re: Clen

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I am about to start my cycle in Jan. I was told to do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off while increasing my intake by a pill a day up to 5 pills a day. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Also if you know of any other side effects (i.e. headaches, insomnia, nausea, jitters, etc.) This will be my first time so any suggestions and/or advice will help. Thanks!
That's how I've run it and I've had those sides. I liked the results. I like to use it towards the end of a cycle and a little bit after.
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Have either of you tryed 21 day cycles instead of 2 weeks? i think you would like them much better

21 days on 21 days off.....eca stack in the off days

tabs per day of clen 20 mcg/tab
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when you go back on for another 21 days you might have to up the dose alittle.
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2 weeks has been pleanty for me. I'm not a huge fan of the sides. LOL Worst for me is insomnia, so getting 4-5 hrs. sleep on average per night gets old pretty quickly. I start to feel in in my training.
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clen takes about 2 weeks to gets used to...after that its all the same
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Old 12-21-03, 01:19 PM
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I have 100 pills. To get the best results out of what I have should I do 2 weeks on/off or 21 days on /off? Again this is my first time to do clen. I have been working out now for 6 months with cardio and weight training 5 to 6 days a week. I concentrate on arms on day 1, legs day 2, back & shoulders day 3, abs day 4, and chest day 5. I have lost 20lbs (I started 6 months ago just working out then I slowly introduced a healthy diet about 2 months ago) and need the extra boost. I am 5'6" at 160. I don't know my BF% yet. I am wanting to get to my old weight of 120 (125 or 130 would make me happy). I have a small frame however the extra pounds are proportionate. Hour glass shape. My meals... I try to eat 5 to 6 meals a day and slowly I am introducing soy protien shakes to my diet. My meals consists of chicken, fish, rice, yogurt, soy nuts, lean ground beef or ground turkey, eggs (mostly egg whites), cheese, Pria bars, (I try to have my carbs before noon, a piece of toast/english muffin) fruit, veggies. That is pretty much it. I have a cheat day or I allow myself 2 cheat meals for the weekends only. If I have a good breakfast then I might have that slice of pizza or the mexican dinner or something that I have been craving. It is normally on Saturday that I cheat. I would love rapid results, but I want to keep the weight off for good. Any other advice would be great too, but I want the most I can get out of the clen. Thanks!
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Old 12-21-03, 04:31 PM
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I have 100 pills. To get the best results out of what I have should I do 2 weeks on/off or 21 days on /off? Again this is my first time to do clen. I have been working out now for 6 months with cardio and weight training 5 to 6 days a week. I concentrate on arms on day 1, legs day 2, back & shoulders day 3, abs day 4, and chest day 5. I have lost 20lbs (I started 6 months ago just working out then I slowly introduced a healthy diet about 2 months ago) and need the extra boost. I am 5'6" at 160. I don't know my BF% yet. I am wanting to get to my old weight of 120 (125 or 130 would make me happy). I have a small frame however the extra pounds are proportionate. Hour glass shape. My meals... I try to eat 5 to 6 meals a day and slowly I am introducing soy protien shakes to my diet. My meals consists of chicken, fish, rice, yogurt, soy nuts, lean ground beef or ground turkey, eggs (mostly egg whites), cheese, Pria bars, (I try to have my carbs before noon, a piece of toast/english muffin) fruit, veggies. That is pretty much it. I have a cheat day or I allow myself 2 cheat meals for the weekends only. If I have a good breakfast then I might have that slice of pizza or the mexican dinner or something that I have been craving. It is normally on Saturday that I cheat. I would love rapid results, but I want to keep the weight off for good. Any other advice would be great too, but I want the most I can get out of the clen. Thanks!

21 days on 21 days off.....eca stack in the off days

tabs per day of clen 20 mcg/tab
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when you go back on for another 21 days you might have to up the dose alittle.
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Old 12-26-03, 08:51 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the great advice. I am going to start my cycle next week. I am really excited to see the results!
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Whoo hoo! Im going to start my 21 days on Monday (Jan5)!
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Old 01-05-04, 08:58 AM
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I started today! So far so good and I can't wait to see the results!
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Old 01-05-04, 01:23 PM
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I prepare my meals every Sunday and Wednesday so I can make sure I don't stray from a clean diet. I got a really bad headache this morning. I only took 1 pill at 5:00am and by 9:30 my head was pounding. I didn't take anything though and I feel a little bit better now. I just thought that the headaches would come later on with the higher doses.
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Old 01-07-04, 01:14 PM
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Alright Day 3. WOW!!! My energy is through the roof! I am doing even better on my diet and feel good. BUT... I am having the hardest time typing because my hands WON'T stay steady. I have taken 3 tabs today. 2 this morning and 1 at 12:00. My workouts are great. I have noticed that I can do a lot more than what I was used to. I am just so pumped! I will have to back off a tab or just stay w/ 3 for a couple more days. I can handle this but I don't even want to think about what 4 is going to do. Also no headache today. WOOHOO!!!
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Do you mean you can lift more than you used to, or jsut have more endurance?
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Old 01-20-04, 02:48 PM
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I just feel like I have more endurance. I am not very strong, but I feel like I am getting stronger & harder with every workout. I have more energy to last longer throughout my workouts & feel like I am getting a lot more out of it. I do have to keep an eye on my HR though. It gets way too high if I am not careful.
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Old 01-27-04, 11:51 AM
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What about 2 days on e 2 off. Many people have been using this way.
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Old 01-27-04, 12:43 PM
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I have heard of doing it 2 days on/off, but I can't remember why "they" say it is not a good idea. I found an article about it when I searched through google. I think it says something about not having enought time to reach it's peak for effectivness. (I could be wrong. I would have to look it up again because it was too long ago) I was able to go up to 4 then I slowly came off of it 3, 2, 1/day. I start back up on Monday and I can't wait. This past week and a half off is for the birds. I am still seeing results though so I can't really complain. My energy is just sooooo not there like what I was starting get used to. Round 2 here I come!!!
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Old 01-31-04, 10:33 AM
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Clen is an interesting compound.

It can help the muscle building affect of AAS as well as be a potent fat burning aid, especially when stacked with a thyroid like T3 or T4.

You've gotten some good rotation suggestions from others, so there is no need to repeat them. I , too, run it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, using a regular ECA in the off weeks. I've been known to go up to 5 pills a day. Of course, insomnia is the biggest side effect, and while dieting, it can be a bitch to deal with.

As far as brands, Oxyflux is bar far the WORST of the lot I have tried. So underdosed that at 5 pills, I could take a nap on it- which for clen (if it's legit) is unheard of.

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Old 02-06-04, 11:41 PM
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OK. I am back on and WOW I missed it. I really have a great routine going. I have found my niche and have learned what is working best for me. I am so focused that I don't think I will ever get off track. I have lost a total of 15lbs and 2 pant sizes. (I started on January 5) I haven't checked my BF% yet but I want to wait until the end of this cycle to do that. This time around is way better. I have had no headaches and I can sleep for a good 6 to 7 hours. My legs are starting to look awesome! I can see the muscle really starting to pop out. My butt is also starting to get firm and toned. (Those are my main problem areas) I am looking better and feeling great.
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lissao1999,

In am about to start a 2wk on/2wk off cycle of clen. What dosages did you stick with and for how long. I am considering a 15 day cycle of 40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40.

Did you experience any notable side effects? If so, how long did they last?
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im doing the 2 week on 2 week off, and im on my 3rd week. so i havent been on for 5 days, and boy do i feel tired as hell. just make sure u take something on your off weeks......
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Old 03-30-04, 11:17 AM
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I have done 1 pill in the AM (6am) and 1 Pill in the afternoon(2pm). (both when my stomach should be "empty". No heart rate or headache issues. I dont pyramid the dosage and I still get enough out of it for my workouts and throughout the day, WITHOUT the insomnia. I tried 3 pills one day and it was like my old days of Ephedra... tossing and turning. I have too busy of a life to go back to sleepless nights. The sleepless nights were my worst enemy of loosing weight... totally counteracting the day time supplimentation assistance. You need those nightly processes to take place over a good 7/8 hours sleep cycle.

As a girl with your composition, you could easily try 1/2 in the AM and PM. It will not give you an "edgy" feeling perhaps. Then pyramid up to 1 and 1. In whatever pattern 2w or 21d you want. Just remember more is not always better. It can deplete your system of water and minerals burning so hot inside. Also they will last you longer this way as well, and you will loose the weight at a healthier pace.

I would take a Multi-Vitamon if you dont already with lots of water throughout the day. That in its self does alot more for you than you might thingk.

Drink water like the faucet is being reposessed tomorrow.

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As a female, my most recent cycle with it has been 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I started with 3 pills a day, and went up to 4. Slept fine, but have not noticed any significant weight or fat loss. However, it has been mixed with a variety of other things, and I wasn't on a cutting diet.
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Make sure you drink a lot of water.A LOT of water This will prevent the headaches. You may also experience crazy leg cramps. I had a leg cramp so bad I woke up screaming in the middle of the night. They say this was because I was dehydrated. Also, when you are off the cycle stick to a clean diet - my biggest mistake was that I got crazy cravings in my off time and I gained all the weight back that I shed.!!! What a pisser!
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