Steroid cycles without testosterone

[redback]

I've put on 10lbs on an EQ only cycle before. I think some of that was muscle memory kicking in though.

i think its dose related tho, how much were you running for how long?

[hitmansb]

if you gained 15lbs in 12 weeks from EQ, you are a world record holder. lol. most don't gain hardly any weight on EQ. the only thing i can think of is that it increased your appetite and you ate more then usual.

I've put on 10lbs on an EQ only cycle before. I think some of that was muscle memory kicking in though.

[latin22]

sorry to hear about your tragedy. :D

yeah I miss going every summer to Cape May.Its all good I guess now I can hop the border lol.

[Bouncer]

its been years since I've been there to visit.I'm a texan now since my wife dragged me here 2 years ago.

sorry to hear about your tragedy. :D

[latin22]

if you gained 15lbs in 12 weeks from EQ, you are a world record holder. lol. most don't gain hardly any weight on EQ. the only thing i can think of is that it increased your appetite and you ate more then usual.

I had a feeling you would bust my balls on this lol. I jumped from 185 to about 205 during that 3 month period.I did eat alot more but I didn't get fatter maybe 5 lbs of fat or so was added.I was more vascular and bigger.

By the way I like your avatar I was born in Jersey but its been years since I've been there to visit.I'm a texan now since my wife dragged me here 2 years ago.

[Bouncer]

I actually have ran EQ alone before and I was happy.I had no libido issues or gyno issues.I didn't gain like test but it was a nice maybe 10-15 lbs.It came slowly so I was able to keep almost all of it.I ran 2cc's a week for 12 weeks I forget the mg/ml though.
But Test is king so I don't see myself running EQ only again.

if you gained 15lbs in 12 weeks from EQ, you are a world record holder. lol. most don't gain hardly any weight on EQ. the only thing i can think of is that it increased your appetite and you ate more then usual.

[Bouncer]

Deca was the primary steriod used solo by many bodybuilders n the 70- and 80's. I think they still used test but I have heard good things about Deca. Most who use deca also stack it with test. deca can be use as a cutting steriod just not as effective as winstrol. friends of mine use deca- test, then stack winstrol at end of cycle. I have a few injures and it works very well

From what I understand, a stack of Deca, Primo, and dbol was big in the 70's. That or Test, Primo, and dbol.

[latin22]

I actually have ran EQ alone before and I was happy.I had no libido issues or gyno issues.I didn't gain like test but it was a nice maybe 10-15 lbs.It came slowly so I was able to keep almost all of it.I ran 2cc's a week for 12 weeks I forget the mg/ml though.
But Test is king so I don't see myself running EQ only again.

[Kiev]

Deca was the primary steriod used solo by many bodybuilders n the 70- and 80's. I think they still used test but I have heard good things about Deca. Most who use deca also stack it with test. deca can be use as a cutting steriod just not as effective as winstrol. friends of mine use deca- test, then stack winstrol at end of cycle. I have a few injures and it works very well

[Chadd77]

im happy just running test on its own, its really all you need anyway

I agree. I also would not run another compound by itself. Like B said it will shut you down. At minimum I would run test at 250mg/week.

[ROCKILLER]

No it ain't. The op said "anyone here". There are people here without penises.

I mean, besides Bouncer. :rofl:

you knew what he meant

[redback]

im happy just running test on its own, its really all you need anyway

[OhHannah]

true, but thats a completely different subject.

No it ain't. The op said "anyone here". There are people here without penises.

I mean, besides Bouncer. :rofl:

[Bouncer]

Has anyone here ever run a cycle that didn't include some kind of testosterone? I know it was common back in the 70's and 80's but I don't see it much these days.

Thanks

It is still done. Its just that pretty much every steroid will shut down your natural test production. Like you said, that brings its own sides. The best way to avoid all sides is to run a maintenance dose of test with the compound you are thinking of running.

[Bouncer]

well i just finished an EQ only cycle and was pretty disappointed, i have always ran test before but thought i would give it a try. I think you should always use test as a base for the best results

EQ is weak though. you would have seen results if you had used a different compound alone such as deca, tren, winny, etc..