Clen/Keto Instructions

[the art of war]

No way in fuck I would stay on clen longer than 3 weeks lol. The first few days are bad enough then the last few you are stuck w/nothing but sides - it's the days in between that I was even able to hold a pencil and still lift etc. I dunno if I'd ever use clen again honestly - rather not have to deal with any of the sides, not like I got some show coming up, my body would kill me if i touched atm lol.

[Mr I]

I'm curious about this too - if the keto can make the clen last longer do you guys still pyramid it up to your tolerance then off it for two weeks or do you remain on it longer at a higher dose?

You would still pyramid up, start at 40mcg and move up every couple days from there. Keto suposedly makes the down regulation slower but I've never used for more than 4 weeks anyway

[GreatGunz]

There is no need for the 2 week lay off the keto allows for steady
use

[the art of war]

Ok, so I'm good w/ the keto, how about the clen?

I'm curious about this too - if the keto can make the clen last longer do you guys still pyramid it up to your tolerance then off it for two weeks or do you remain on it longer at a higher dose?

[GreatGunz]

I used a clen/Leto combo in pill form and wow if u use too much
I got a bad fuckin head ache

[grnmchn]

Ok, so I'm good w/ the keto, how about the clen?

[grnmchn]

Oh wow, look who decides to stop by...

Who, me? :)

[Mr I]

your weight seems to fluxuate a lil bro :rofl:

Ha that's 250lb, not sure if that was accident or sabotage !

[the art of war]

1-3 mg

2 is fine for me at 235-150lbs

your weight seems to fluxuate a lil bro :rofl:

[Mr I]

It's liquid and has one liquid syringe. How much keto do you take before bed?

1-3 mg

2 is fine for me at 235-150lbs

[FitnessBrat]

Oh wow, look who decides to stop by...

[grnmchn]

It's liquid and has one liquid syringe. How much keto do you take before bed?

[the art of war]

Yeah thats a side effect of it, its an antihistamine type ashma drug with a drowsy effect. So when given to ashma patients you take tabs in evening, sleep on it and the antihistimine effect lasts all the next day.

People use it with clen for two reasons, the most important is that is theoretically keeps the clenbuterols effect from shutting down, as it would normally do withing 2-3 weeks, so you can take clen for longer periods.

The second reason is that clen can give you the jitters and stop you from sleeping, this is what I hate about it most, so shen you use the ketop at night you sleep easier.

But ya I have some on hand and when I had a stesseful office job I used to use it on friday night to help me be sure of a full nights sleep to recover. It can leave you a lil drowsy the morning after and if you have too much it can make you muggy all the next day.

generally though at a low dose its helpful, doesn't knock you out like a diazapam would just means that as you drift off you tend to sleep right through

I gotcha, I might give that a look since I have no tolerance to it, would be nice to sleep some.

[Mr I]

does the keto help w/sleep period or is it it's combo w/clen... not familiar with it.

Yeah thats a side effect of it, its an antihistamine type ashma drug with a drowsy effect. So when given to ashma patients you take tabs in evening, sleep on it and the antihistimine effect lasts all the next day.

People use it with clen for two reasons, the most important is that is theoretically keeps the clenbuterols effect from shutting down, as it would normally do withing 2-3 weeks, so you can take clen for longer periods.

The second reason is that clen can give you the jitters and stop you from sleeping, this is what I hate about it most, so shen you use the ketop at night you sleep easier.

But ya I have some on hand and when I had a stesseful office job I used to use it on friday night to help me be sure of a full nights sleep to recover. It can leave you a lil drowsy the morning after and if you have too much it can make you muggy all the next day.

generally though at a low dose its helpful, doesn't knock you out like a diazapam would just means that as you drift off you tend to sleep right through

[the art of war]

Is it in the same squirter or seperate, if seperate then not sure on dose per acutation but take the keto in the evening 30-60 mins before you wanna sleep

does the keto help w/sleep period or is it it's combo w/clen... not familiar with it.