IGF use with GH not worth it?? myth?

[Bouncer]

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[inkslinger]

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...vs-acetic-acid

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great read, I am now 8 days in and have mine diluted with .03 of acetic acid and 2ml ba water in the frdge .. no problems with potency thus far @ 50mcg

[Bouncer]

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...vs-acetic-acid

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[inkslinger]

yea, white distilled vinegar brother, thats acetic acid .. can mix the 3iu with water and it lasts awhile.. i fridge mine others leave it room temp..
loving this IGF :-)

[FrankTheTank55]

Oh yea some people just use bacteriostatic water and say this will give you a good 3-4 weeks storage. No clue of the validity of that though, I have always been told to use acetic/water combo

I used bac water but i think it only lasts a few days. I could tell a difference from the first couple days and the last few days. I just made sure I used it all within 3 days...LOL But I will do the vinegar thing! Thanks!

[inkslinger]

Frank, you use .03 (3 iu) of distilled white vinegar (acetic acid) then 2ml of water .. mixing with regular water is a waste given the amount youre supposed to use, etc.

Oh yea, I wasnt doubting that my stuff was real, I just want to make the most out of it of course. Thanks for all the info rocket.. im glad I started it now. 50mcg seems to be plenty, I have done research and a lot of people say 20-30 when stacking is sufficient.

There was an interesting read on using IGF post cycle with clomid,nolva and hcg ... since it doesnt effect your natty production.

Oh.. one more thing, I've noticed some serious pumps and I'm a lot more vascular. My forearms are like concrete and my veins especially on my arms/chest are totally visible now.

Oh yea some people just use bacteriostatic water and say this will give you a good 3-4 weeks storage. No clue of the validity of that though, I have always been told to use acetic/water combo

[inkslinger]

Frank, you use .03 (3 iu) of distilled white vinegar (acetic acid) then 2ml of water .. mixing with regular water is a waste given the amount youre supposed to use, etc.

Oh yea, I wasnt doubting that my stuff was real, I just want to make the most out of it of course. Thanks for all the info rocket.. im glad I started it now. 50mcg seems to be plenty, I have done research and a lot of people say 20-30 when stacking is sufficient.

There was an interesting read on using IGF post cycle with clomid,nolva and hcg ... since it doesnt effect your natty production.

Oh.. one more thing, I've noticed some serious pumps and I'm a lot more vascular. My forearms are like concrete and my veins especially on my arms/chest are totally visible now.

[FrankTheTank55]

you must have real IGF then. Like I said it is insane if you have the two mixed together and they are real.
I forget the length you can run IGF it wouldnt be hard to search it real fast but 4 weeks is what I "think" but honestly dont remember. if ti is go 4 weeks on 4 off 4 on 4 off ect
but check the time length first

I always heard 4 weeks too. The thing is igf goes bad so fast. Unless you use acidic acid to mix it. It's been hard for me to get a hold of some.

[FrankTheTank55]

I mixed a vial of igf the other day and then used that to mix a vial of my growth with. Im not sure if its in my head or what but last night i could really see a difference!!! Gonna try it for a while. I'm just shooting it sub q. But when I do straight igf I always do it in whichever muscle I trained.

[ROCKETW19]

Ok so I have been on IGF with my growth and cycle for a steady 7 days, ive been doing IM into muscle trained.. 50mcg .. is this stuff magic or something? lol ..this morning I work up and felt like I looked extremely different.. could just be the perfect storm because everything should be jelling nicely.. but im extremely hard ..lean.. and full with zero bloat ..question is how long do I run igf for? I have enough where I can do 3 months

you must have real IGF then. Like I said it is insane if you have the two mixed together and they are real.
I forget the length you can run IGF it wouldnt be hard to search it real fast but 4 weeks is what I "think" but honestly dont remember. if ti is go 4 weeks on 4 off 4 on 4 off ect
but check the time length first

[inkslinger]

Ok so I have been on IGF with my growth and cycle for a steady 7 days, ive been doing IM into muscle trained.. 50mcg .. is this stuff magic or something? lol ..this morning I work up and felt like I looked extremely different.. could just be the perfect storm because everything should be jelling nicely.. but im extremely hard ..lean.. and full with zero bloat ..question is how long do I run igf for? I have enough where I can do 3 months

[ROCKETW19]

too scarry for me too.. and im not going for that beast look ever.. 50mcg too little? directions say 50mcg in muscle trained
i dont know seems the 200mcg people are telling me is just Overkill ... i respond well to little doses of things

Id try 50 to start. you will know fast if you have to bump it. so either pick a number and go for it or have enough in case you want to bump. I always did IM muscle trained but I also did subQ there was no difference. I just liked doing muscle trained

[inkslinger]

Ya insulin will always be in the mix but I think its to scarry for me. If I was pro or something I might look into it more but no need for me at my age and the look I am after.

too scarry for me too.. and im not going for that beast look ever.. 50mcg too little? directions say 50mcg in muscle trained
i dont know seems the 200mcg people are telling me is just Overkill ... i respond well to little doses of things

[ROCKETW19]

Ya insulin will always be in the mix but I think its to scarry for me. If I was pro or something I might look into it more but no need for me at my age and the look I am after.

[inkslinger]

most people who seem like they know their stuff have been saying DO IT.. it just seems insulin keeps popping up into the equation which i dont want to mess with... i have 2000 mcg right now ... i keep you all posted ;-)