LOW T

[Total T]

Don't you have an endocrinologist you can consult instead of a family practitioner?

TRT doc...not technically "endo". Seeing an endo in 3 weeks.
Really hope he gives me some clomid the first appointment so I can see what my system can do.
I have all my complete hormone panels....
LH, FSH, TT, FT, BIO T, E2, TSH e.t.c.
he should technically prescribe something the first visit, no?

[Scrumhalf]

Don't you have an endocrinologist you can consult instead of a family practitioner?

[A$AP]

^ I personally think you are over thinking things my man.

[Total T]

My advice, lose some weight, get your diet in check, get on the treadmill. And if you want, get on some hormones. If it were me I would be on test 400-500mgs per week. Fuck trt, just get your own so you dont have to deal with that BS from the doc.

I dropped some weight already. But that's not what lowered my T.T. to hypogonadal levels. The Family doc is grasping at straws. People told me when someone is on TRT (steady dose of T) for prolonged period of time, that you ruin the HPTA.
It's not like staying on for a 2-3 month cycle and doing a PCT and having a better chance of recovery.

I didn't burn my bridge with TRT doc...so I am good for at least 200 mg/week of T pharm grade stuff.
400-500 mg/week is a bit much for me bro....lol
I understand your position though.

Bouncer did you ever get irritability when off everything for a while?
I have rages at present....not when on T.
Low T causes rages....not high T.
You don't feel like doing the stuff you did before and everything makes me irritable.
People in the media and medical community don't know what the hell they are talking about.

[Bouncer]

My advice, lose some weight, get your diet in check, get on the treadmill. And if you want, get on some hormones. If it were me I would be on test 400-500mgs per week. Fuck trt, just get your own so you dont have to deal with that BS from the doc.

[Total T]

You need free test checked. Its just as important if not more important that total t

It was 26 pmol/L (range: 31-94 pmol/L) last month.
My Bio T was 7.1 nmol/L in July 2013 (range: 2.5-18.6 nmol/L)
another lab has BIO T range at: 3.5-11.3 nmol/L

Like I said been on Adex 0.25 mg E3D since last year when TRT was discontinued.
The levels would drop more If I stopped taking this I think.

[A$AP]

You need free test checked. Its just as important if not more important that total t

[Total T]

You need more than just total t.. Dude just go to another doc

I went to another doc I had from years ago. He is nicer to deal with and much more understanding. But he said the same thing: "drop 50 pounds and it will raise, you'll see"
Looking back at my blood work I have photocopies of from years ago. I had the same levels of T.T. at 240 lbs and 265 lbs....
I'm 276 lbs now....
so this knocked my Total T in half?
I am also on Adex 0.25 mg E3D since last June that is no doubt just keeping my LH, FSH, T.T. just above normal.

Family doc told me to cut that out too. I'm not!

[A$AP]

You need more than just total t.. Dude just go to another doc

[Total T]

I did blood work 2 weeks ago and called his secretary for my results...
she won't give it to me. He told her to tell me to make an appointment to come in to see them.
This is how they drain the medical system here in Canada.
It's basically one test she has to tell me over the phone for Total T level.
I have been to see this doc a half doz. times since June 2013 and he has done NOTHING!!!!! prescribed NOTHING!!!!!
and he wants me to go in... AGAIN... so he can bill the Govt. and drain the system.
Scum!

[A$AP]

What's the long term effects of trt hard erections great energy and libido. Get yourself another doc one that will try to get you back to normal with meds or testosterone replacement therapy

[Total T]

Its simple go to another doc. What's your reason for coming off?? Is it because this doc told you to?

Yes. He told me so. He said: "go without the TRT, we don't know the long term effects of this....I can do what the TRT can do...but with Anti Depressants"
"you found was was wrong with you and you are treating your sleep apnea....let it go for a while."
I told him I never felt "depressed"....he was implying on giving me SSRI, NDRI's to increase my neurotransmitters...tricking me into feeling a greater sense of well being.
I clued in after he said the Testosterone you take makes you fel good...because you re raising levels of neurotransmitters in your brain.

My body has become soft since coming off the T. I use to have harder muscles and my strength was more.

I can tell you so much about this guy...you would get sick of hearing it.

[Total T]

I was between 258-265 lbs 4 years ago PRIOR to TRT and with T.T. 582 ng/dl
LH was 5 IU/L (double what it is now) and FSH was 2 IU/L
I'm 278 lbs now and he says I'm "obese"....
I have a feeling my Pituitary would have responded to Clomid stimulation but he did not give it to me. I have no fucking energy to train hard...
he expects me to be on top of the world with 265 ng/dl T.T.
The Study I gave him from the Lahey Clinic says that is the level of a 70 year old.
My Free T was low last month....below range low....not just low!!!!

[A$AP]

Its simple go to another doc. What's your reason for coming off?? Is it because this doc told you to?

[Total T]

The TRT doc told me to stay on HCG while using T to not ruin my sperm count...
I asked the TRT doc to run some clomid...he said nothing else works only HCG and T...
what kind of restart would work here?
My family doc (who is anti TRT) is to blame for everything.
The dirt bag told me to come off T shots because he said he could do what the Testosterone supplementation did but with ANTI -D's (Paxil, Wellbutrin). He said my BMI is "obese"...I been working out since I was 16 for fucks sake...I gained some weight last year after cutting out the T shots and my system crashed.

Says he has no respect for my TRT doc and that he is not an endo.

I lost the enjoyment I had when I did activities, while on T shots (sports, camping, hunting) everything feels like a drag now and I am extremely irritable and go into rages when I'm angry.

I took a Study on clomid done by the Lahey clinic into my family doc. He said the study was good and that this was positive for me and it would help me...but that he would not write the script. I asked "why"?
He said: "what if it gives you breast cancer wouldn't you want me to look out for you"?
then he goes on to say: "if the endo prescribes it I'm ok with it"...
so what does this mean? if it causes breast cancer he's ok with it cause someone else gave the script and not him?
I can't read it any other way....

He told me to come off everything and he turned his back on me. He is grasping at straws and when my mother went into see him (she is a patient of his too) he told her "that I am not listening to him, and my Testosterone is fine"...
He never told me any of this he said "lose weight and it will increase"
"don't eat bread" is his advice...
lost close to 18 pounds and don't feel any more libido than I had before...

disaster!!!!