Next Cycle Jan 2014

[Mr I]

I am just now starting to see some effects of the GH - I am in week 10 of it right now. Skin elasticity is reacting very nicely - I carried a lot of extra weight in my torso for 10 years and at my age the extra skin and tightness isn't what it once was. I am trying to avoid surgery - although it would be a hell of a lot cheaper :) I am noticing my body is changing as far as how forgiving it is becoming on my diet. The holidays have seen me really mess up in terms of eating things I haven't touched in 18+months. I took my body comp this morning and my jaw hit the floor. I have gone from 12.5% Nov 1 to 17% this morning Jan 7. I'm not stressing too bad as I know I can be back at 13% in 4 weeks - which I will get on today w/ +1 hr cardio/day. Here is the HGH though - it's not me, because I asked a few guys that are brutally honest - I don't look 17%. It's like the fat has more evenly deposited - I'm not as shredded as I was at 12% but I have visible vascularity and you can trace the outlines of all of my muscles in my legs/arms - and my chest which was lagging in Nov looks better now than it has in 10 years. My water and LBM weights have stayed the same.

I have DEFINITELY noticed pain in joints has dissipated. I went from feeling like I got hit by a truck every morning to almost no soreness in my shoulders/elbows. When I cam off the Deca and everything else last cycle a few weeks later I didn't know if I could handle all the pain in my joints. I train weights 1 hr a day 5x a week and it was unbearable. Then, about 10 days ago, I noticed it was much better. The ONLY thing I am putting into my body now is HGH. I lost zero strength since my last cycle, and about .5lb of LBM and about 9 lbs of water.

The HGH is helping me sleep like I haven't slept in YEARS. I have had sleeping problems my entire life - I am sleeping through the night now like a baby. It is awesome - and agin, it has to be the HGH because that is all that is in my body right now.

My skin as I mentioned before is also looking great on my face and HANDS. My fiancé grabbed my hands the other day and said WTF?! because the tops of my hands look much younger. The lady that does my facials has also been asking what I am doing - have seen her for a couple of years - so I know something is working here and the HGH is the only new thing.

Hope this helps.

Sounds like you got the good stuff and you sound very organised and determined. HallmarksIif a man that will succeed. Go get it bro!

[MattG]

Monster, where do you live? I would love to find a doc like yours. lol

I have never ran HGH before but would love to. Even if the only benefit was better sleeping and less joint pain, it would be worth it.

I want a doc like that too. Gota love the crooked ones that don't give a shit, as long as they're making $ and you're getting what you want outta the deal.lol

[Chadd77]

Monster, where do you live? I would love to find a doc like yours. lol

I have never ran HGH before but would love to. Even if the only benefit was better sleeping and less joint pain, it would be worth it.

[monster70k]

Just want to say that when I said looks good I was looking at the injectables, somehow I completely missed the orals. Four weeks of dbol is cool but I don't see the need for the anavar while you are on test, decay and hgh. And if you really want the anavar, start taking it on your 12 week when you stop deca. Better yet instead of taking anavar replace deca with masteron and finish your cycle with test, masteron and hgh. Masteron is better for your liver and it's a better drug as far as results goes.

Also agree with rocket on anti E. You should take it when you start seeing some sides from the cycle.

I have a limited selection to 'choose' from with my doc. It is basically what I have incorporated into my cycle except for the DBol - that is from a friend. So Test C, Test P, Deca, and Anavar - as well as HGH - is what I have in my toolbox. Would you suggest cutting back on anything, then? I will be doing blood work the entire time to monitor everything.

Here's the deal on the Anavar: I just like it. I took 37.5 x 6 weeks my last cycle and it was awesome. The 24/7 pumps, the lean hardness all the time, my diet was dialed in perfectly and visceral fat was evaporating before my eyes. It literally made me feel like I had rocks taped to my bones instead of muscles. The pumps sometimes hurt they were so tight/big. So if I kill anything on this, it would be anything but the anavar because I reacted so well on it. I will be doing it the last 8 weeks (second half) of my 16-week cycle, and from what I've read (correct me if I am wrong here) while it does stress the liver, it does so less than any other oral? Thanks Beast :thumb:

[monster70k]

Monster, your stats appear v impressive bro, how did u rate using gh while off?

I am just now starting to see some effects of the GH - I am in week 10 of it right now. Skin elasticity is reacting very nicely - I carried a lot of extra weight in my torso for 10 years and at my age the extra skin and tightness isn't what it once was. I am trying to avoid surgery - although it would be a hell of a lot cheaper :) I am noticing my body is changing as far as how forgiving it is becoming on my diet. The holidays have seen me really mess up in terms of eating things I haven't touched in 18+months. I took my body comp this morning and my jaw hit the floor. I have gone from 12.5% Nov 1 to 17% this morning Jan 7. I'm not stressing too bad as I know I can be back at 13% in 4 weeks - which I will get on today w/ +1 hr cardio/day. Here is the HGH though - it's not me, because I asked a few guys that are brutally honest - I don't look 17%. It's like the fat has more evenly deposited - I'm not as shredded as I was at 12% but I have visible vascularity and you can trace the outlines of all of my muscles in my legs/arms - and my chest which was lagging in Nov looks better now than it has in 10 years. My water and LBM weights have stayed the same.

I have DEFINITELY noticed pain in joints has dissipated. I went from feeling like I got hit by a truck every morning to almost no soreness in my shoulders/elbows. When I cam off the Deca and everything else last cycle a few weeks later I didn't know if I could handle all the pain in my joints. I train weights 1 hr a day 5x a week and it was unbearable. Then, about 10 days ago, I noticed it was much better. The ONLY thing I am putting into my body now is HGH. I lost zero strength since my last cycle, and about .5lb of LBM and about 9 lbs of water.

The HGH is helping me sleep like I haven't slept in YEARS. I have had sleeping problems my entire life - I am sleeping through the night now like a baby. It is awesome - and agin, it has to be the HGH because that is all that is in my body right now.

My skin as I mentioned before is also looking great on my face and HANDS. My fiancé grabbed my hands the other day and said WTF?! because the tops of my hands look much younger. The lady that does my facials has also been asking what I am doing - have seen her for a couple of years - so I know something is working here and the HGH is the only new thing.

Hope this helps.

[monster70k]

who suggested 1mg adex per day? you might and I mean might need 1mg per week. you take 7mgs of that shit and you not gonna be happy

I started my last cycle at .5mg EOD. The Dbol blew up my estro and I had to cut it down and started getting painful/itchy nipples. After that was under control, I was on .5mg/day. I started getting very moody and having terrible sleep issues and ended up by the end at 1mg/day. We were going to start there and cut it back as we could - I definitely am very estro-sensitive. Will def be doing bloodwork throughout the entire cycle. Thanks Rocket.:thumb:

[BEAST]

Just want to say that when I said looks good I was looking at the injectables, somehow I completely missed the orals. Four weeks of dbol is cool but I don't see the need for the anavar while you are on test, decay and hgh. And if you really want the anavar, start taking it on your 12 week when you stop deca. Better yet instead of taking anavar replace deca with masteron and finish your cycle with test, masteron and hgh. Masteron is better for your liver and it's a better drug as far as results goes.

Also agree with rocket on anti E. You should take it when you start seeing some sides from the cycle.

[Mr I]

Monster, your stats appear v impressive bro, how did u rate using gh while off?

[ROCKETW19]

Dissagree, most of the earlier assumptions on fears to suppression of estro to far are bunk.

bull shit happened to me and it happened to rado.
my doc scripted me .5 day after injection and I was perfect after that why the fuck you gonna need 7mgs? bullshit get blood work you will see

[Mr I]

who suggested 1mg adex per day? you might and I mean might need 1mg per week. you take 7mgs of that shit and you not gonna be happy

Dissagree, most of the earlier assumptions on fears to suppression of estro to far are bunk.

[ROCKETW19]

oh just noticed the almost 20 weeks od orals also. ya i know most of it is var but still thats to much IMO. we are all different I get that but Id check liver values 10 weeks in I bet you in the 100s and thats not good at all.

[ROCKETW19]

who suggested 1mg adex per day? you might and I mean might need 1mg per week. you take 7mgs of that shit and you not gonna be happy

[Mr I]

How? Life clinic

[monster70k]

How have u found hgh while off? What brand?

It is Tev-Tropin. I am on a 1-year protocol of 3iu/day M-F. I get 12 vials from the pharmacy every 3 months, each vial is 15iu. All doctor Rx.

[monster70k]

Looks good but why bother with cyp and prop mix? Why not just take 500mg cyp a week? You don't wanna stay around 250mg "hrt" level test a week?

This is what my doc is recommending. I think it has to do with Rx limits - maybe that high of Cyp would make the pharmacy question it? I really don't know - i try not to ask a lot of questions and ask the here instead :) This might work for an aggressive 6-month protocol, so he writes it like it's a 6-month although I do it in 4 with 2-3 off afterwards so maybe that way it flies?