TEST LEVELS

[ROCKETW19]

I'm feeling rockets aura returning to greatness once more

lol maybe one of these moderators can help lmao that's nothing personal just poking fun at B

[Mr I]

I'm feeling rockets aura returning to greatness once more

[ROCKETW19]

this goes directly against what rocket is saying. simple terms. deca lowers test levels.

Holly fuck yiu guys are confusing the shit outs yoursekfs and me
Trust me I'm right im akways fuckin right

Yiu post is real testosterone not the numbers that show on blood test.
ANY steroid will decrease your natural test or shut it down 100%

But in a test simple blood test we all take it will show high

Now rookies go back to sleep when I post thread should be over cuz there's yiur Anwser

[chuckz28]

this goes directly against what rocket is saying. simple terms. deca lowers test levels.

Yeah. As for Olympics and doctors they will know you are on aas simply from the nearly total shutdown then test for metabolites of specific compounds.

[Bouncer]

http://www.eis.hu.edu.jo/Deanshipfiles/pub105431116.pdf

3.2. Effects of ND administration on testosterone level Measuring total testosterone level in the serum of the control and treated groups indicated that injection of ND caused a significant decrease in testosterone level in both the low (5.3 ± 3.7 pg/ml) and the high-dose (60.1 ± 19.3 pg/ml) ND receiving groups (p=0.001) as compared to the control group (633.3 ± 210.1 pg/ml).

this goes directly against what rocket is saying. simple terms. deca lowers test levels.

[Bouncer]

Rocket is right

All of these compounds are ultimately derivatives of Testosterone, so will show up in any total testosterone measurement, even if they are DHT or 19nortestostetone based.

For example; 10mg of Dianabol a day will elicit an increased total testosterone count in the blood, even though du anabolic is not testosterone propionate, enan the etc

And Frank, yes a further test can be performed to establish if the total testosterone count is made up of free bound etc.

In fact the ratio test used to form the basis of olympic drug testing.

Now they are more advanced and test for known metabolites in the blood.

wow. an actual useful post from you rather then your usual 2 words of meaningless shit. keep it up.

[chuckz28]

http://www.eis.hu.edu.jo/Deanshipfiles/pub105431116.pdf

3.2. Effects of ND administration on testosterone level Measuring total testosterone level in the serum of the control and treated groups indicated that injection of ND caused a significant decrease in testosterone level in both the low (5.3 ± 3.7 pg/ml) and the high-dose (60.1 ± 19.3 pg/ml) ND receiving groups (p=0.001) as compared to the control group (633.3 ± 210.1 pg/ml).

[Mr I]

Rocket is right

All of these compounds are ultimately derivatives of Testosterone, so will show up in any total testosterone measurement, even if they are DHT or 19nortestostetone based.

For example; 10mg of Dianabol a day will elicit an increased total testosterone count in the blood, even though du anabolic is not testosterone propionate, enan the etc

And Frank, yes a further test can be performed to establish if the total testosterone count is made up of free bound etc.

In fact the ratio test used to form the basis of olympic drug testing.

Now they are more advanced and test for known metabolites in the blood.

[ROCKETW19]

My understanding was deca will bind to the androgen receptors but do not show up as testosterone in a blood test. Hence why people have to labmax and get mass specs done for most aas instead of just getting blood work. As far as I know only test will show up as test and I've heard there is one form of blood test where trestolone will show as test.

I think your talking about testing for certain drugs?
I think frank is asking in a normal test you get like a physical if EQ will show as high test levels if he is asking this then yes it will
If not pay no attention to any of my posts cuz I'm confused lol

[ROCKETW19]

Umm isn't that wtf he is asking? It shuts you down without test.

Shit I don't think so lol?
If you take EQ your body will shut its natural production down yes but if you take blood test your test level will show higher.
All steroids will shut you down and show test levels higher on blood test

I explane best I can in retard terms I don't know all the names ect and I read it 100 years ago but I'll be close to right on im sure

All synthetic steroids are made from test hormones A-B and C then to make EQ they add D or double up on C ect sorry I don't know the terms ect but I think you get it
So EQ will shut you down cuz of ABC and trick the blood test cuz of ABC
I'm pretty sure all steroids are made from the test hormones at least the ones I liked were I never checked them all.

Now saying that the Olympics prob have a test that will tell the difference but your normal test you take at your doc won't at least mine dont

[ROCKETW19]

It staggers me, can I have 19004 of my posts back

This is your answer? It shuts natural test... So when you get blood work done is there separate Testosterone results? Natural Test and Artificial Test levels?

If you run Deca alone your body is gonna shut down its test production because the Deca mimics test but it's not Test. So your Test levels on a blood test would be lower. Right?[/QUOTE]

Half right you will shut down but your levels will read high

[chuckz28]

My understanding was deca will bind to the androgen receptors but do not show up as testosterone in a blood test. Hence why people have to labmax and get mass specs done for most aas instead of just getting blood work. As far as I know only test will show up as test and I've heard there is one form of blood test where trestolone will show as test.

[FrankTheTank55]

It staggers me, can I have 19004 of my posts back[/QUOTE]

Natural test yes

Also your blood would be too thick

This is your answer? It shuts natural test... So when you get blood work done is there separate Testosterone results? Natural Test and Artificial Test levels?

If you run Deca alone your body is gonna shut down its test production because the Deca mimics test but it's not Test. So your Test levels on a blood test would be lower. Right?

[Mr I]

OMG

It staggers me, can I have 19004 of my posts back

[FrankTheTank55]

I thought the only thing that raises TESTOSTERONE levels is Test.... If taking Deca raises your test levels why would you need to take test with it?