Craig Golias Claims Natural

[BlueApple]

False....unless you lift at a planet fitness. I've never met or seen a pro or even amateur that doesn't spend a few hours in the gym. Their cardio alone is usually an hour long, so yea....:wave:

No pro works out for hours a day. Most are in the gym for an hour at most. Cardio? They might do half an hour of cardio a day when its close to competition time.

[MattG]

Imo, the "hardest thing a pro has to do" isn't injecting themselves 10 times a day. It's the fuckin diet. Eating 8 to 10 times a day, nothing but quality home cooked food in measured amounts...shit, the grocery shopping, cooking, cleaning up the mess, prepping tons of meals, eating every 2 hours, etc is a full time job. I only do 4 or 5 meals and it consumes too much of my life, can't imagine doubling or tripling that

[chuckz28]

Genetics are overrated. Bodybuilding these days is all drugs, and please dont tell me "oh they work their ass off" most pros are in the gym for an hour or less 4-5 days a week. Meanwhile most naturals are in the gym working their ass off 2 hours a day 6 days a week. The hardest thing a pro has to do is inject themselves 10 times a day.

It's not that easy bro. You can't overcome bad genetics with all the gear in the world, it'll just kill you. Muscle bellies and insertions cant change regardless of gear usage.

I work with guys that haven't trained weights since high school 20+ years ago, eat like shit, no drugs other than booze, that have much bigger muscles than me and Ive been training consistently with gear for a couple years now. That's genetics. It takes gear, genetics, diet, and work ethic to be a top pro. The more of those that are missing the further down the ladder you go.

[rado]

Genetics are overrated. Bodybuilding these days is all drugs, and please dont tell me "oh they work their ass off" most pros are in the gym for an hour or less 4-5 days a week. Meanwhile most naturals are in the gym working their ass off 2 hours a day 6 days a week. The hardest thing a pro has to do is inject themselves 10 times a day.

False....unless you lift at a planet fitness. I've never met or seen a pro or even amateur that doesn't spend a few hours in the gym. Their cardio alone is usually an hour long, so yea....:wave:

[BlueApple]

Genetics are overrated. Bodybuilding these days is all drugs, and please dont tell me "oh they work their ass off" most pros are in the gym for an hour or less 4-5 days a week. Meanwhile most naturals are in the gym working their ass off 2 hours a day 6 days a week. The hardest thing a pro has to do is inject themselves 10 times a day.

[wheyman]

Not sold on synthol usage, but definitely gear. It still takes hard work to get to that size though so kudos to him. It's not a physique I'd want, but it's still impressive.

[Bouncer]

I disagree that we agree. Let's agree to disagree :D

[epix00]

Agree to a point epix. BUT. Even a guy with shit genetics. If you put him on a pro dose with proper anti aromatise, proper diet, proper training, you will have a fella well above average. Drugs alone are capable of pushing even genetics like pee wee Herman well above what training or diet could ever do.

thats exactly the point though that you are saying proper diet and proper training. Those are the parts that require hard work and dedication, so I think we both agree on what it takes.

[Bouncer]

Agree to a point epix. BUT. Even a guy with shit genetics. If you put him on a pro dose with proper anti aromatise, proper diet, proper training, you will have a fella well above average. Drugs alone are capable of pushing even genetics like pee wee Herman well above what training or diet could ever do.

[epix00]

I think the point is that 99.9 percent of dudes who use steroids will never look anywhere near a pro bodybuilder or even a look like a guy who could win a local amateur show to be quite honest. So yes this all isnt possible without the drugs, but the hard work, dedication, and genetics, are just as important. You take any of those away and you just have a regular gym dude.

[redback]

Lol... At THAT level of course you need the drugs. I'm not arguing that.

At your level too

[dna9488]

Without the drugs and with all the things you listed he gets nowhere. They are both equally important when it comes to that level of bodybuilding. It's drugs AND hard work. Without either one you would never have heard of him. Guy can work harder than anyone on the planet but without the drugs he gets nowhere. So let's cut the bs "it's all hardwork and protein" horseshit. Sound like fucken muscle & fitness magazine Dana.

Lol... At THAT level of course you need the drugs. I'm not arguing that.

[Bouncer]

Drugs or not. It all comes down to your dedication, work ethic, and discipline.
Without that, you will achieve nothing and up more pissed off when person A looks better than you.

Without the drugs and with all the things you listed he gets nowhere. They are both equally important when it comes to that level of bodybuilding. It's drugs AND hard work. Without either one you would never have heard of him. Guy can work harder than anyone on the planet but without the drugs he gets nowhere. So let's cut the bs "it's all hardwork and protein" horseshit. Sound like fucken muscle & fitness magazine Dana.

[dna9488]

Drugs or not. It all comes down to your dedication, work ethic, and discipline.
Without that, you will achieve nothing and up more pissed off when person A looks better than you.

[Mr I]

Someone needs to claim that photoshop