Smt-h

[lipripper]

B...that could be the million dollar question...

[Bouncer]

I have to say that this stuff felt potent! So I was shocked when I saw that score but if the Metformin is the reason for that then I think this stuff might be pretty legit. I have Omnitrope coming and that is premixed as well. So we will see how those compare.

It's just so many factors can play into these blood tests. I don't think it's a end all be all determination on the quality of a product. The hgh serum score was right on point with US Pharma hgh. So I'm interested in seeing other results and hopefully we all can learn a little something.

I want to say that SelectHGH has been great to deal with and he is very knowledgeable. Good guy to work with!

I do wonder. If someone was on a bunch of chemicals that are known to lower igf but you ran GH. Would you get the results from GH even with low igf scores or is it actually the high IGF itself that gives those results in the first place. In other words, is there nothing more to GH aside from igf? Does it have any benefit if you take away its ability to raise IGF? Can anyone actually answer that without just a guess?

[FrankTheTank55]

I have to say that this stuff felt potent! So I was shocked when I saw that score but if the Metformin is the reason for that then I think this stuff might be pretty legit. I have Omnitrope coming and that is premixed as well. So we will see how those compare.

It's just so many factors can play into these blood tests. I don't think it's a end all be all determination on the quality of a product. The hgh serum score was right on point with US Pharma hgh. So I'm interested in seeing other results and hopefully we all can learn a little something.

I want to say that SelectHGH has been great to deal with and he is very knowledgeable. Good guy to work with!

[FrankTheTank55]

Well that might explain the low test score. I look forward to seeing other results.

[Bouncer]

Do you guys think Metformin will lower IGF-1??? I was taking 1000mgs before bed.

Looks like it yes.

Not only does it lower igf but it lowers free testosterone and raises shbg. All bad things.

Brings up a good point though. Certain drugs like letro are known to be pretty severe at lowering igf levels. So if someone is running that while running gh it could lead to lower scores.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10770203

[FrankTheTank55]

Do you guys think Metformin will lower IGF-1??? I was taking 1000mgs before bed.

[Bouncer]

Yes, but SMT is not a problem, it has a great demand in the domestic market, and we will just wait for the manufacturer to be able to make lyophilizate (dry form of the drug). We are new to the foreign market, and this is the fastest way to determine the drugs that we can sell to the store.

So they are going to make a dry version. This would be much more durable. I think the liquid stuff if it ever tested well was meant to be used immediatly and kept cold at all times.

[rado]

By good way to run your business I was referring to you pulling the product if not up to standard...that's honorable

Agreed

[SelectHGH]

By good way to run your business I was referring to you pulling the product if not up to standard...that's honorable

Yes, but SMT is not a problem, it has a great demand in the domestic market, and we will just wait for the manufacturer to be able to make lyophilizate (dry form of the drug). We are new to the foreign market, and this is the fastest way to determine the drugs that we can sell to the store.

[lipripper]

gh has a pronounced synergistic effect with AAS, And if the rate is gh along with AAS - you can quickly see the changes in the form, especially if people do sport for 10-20 years. I think everyone knows what to do his hand from 35 centimeters to 40 centimeters, it's difficult, but you can do it in 2-3 months. But that would make the arm 50 centimeters to 51 centimeters may require six months in a good professional ( I'm talking about a dry form, without increased body fat). That's why people who do sports for a long time can see the best separatio, depth muscle. Because they know how preparaty work on their body and see the changes.

I hope I said it in plain language) Because my knowledge of English does not allow me to express correctly many of my thoughts.


And about business - so far this is not our best idea:
1) Spend $ 1000 to test the drug
2) get a bad result and not expose it to the store
3) ?????
4) Profit.

While I do not know what should be in step 3)

By good way to run your business I was referring to you pulling the product if not up to standard...that's honorable

[AvidFisherman]

The initial level of IGF was also extremely low, perhaps due to concomitant medications, or for another reason. But we have 2 more people who do smt test, and we will be able to understand the reason for such indicators. And before that time - smt will not appear in our store. The risk of sending this gh is too high.

My smt-h should be in shortly. I am getting an initial IGF-1 reading this Friday so we know where Im starting from.

[SelectHGH]

I think that's a good way to run your business..yet..he clearly liked the results he seen in his core area...so whats going on? why such noticeable results in such a fast time..yet such a low score. I understand its pre mixed..shipping and all that..it will degrade quickly compared to normal vials of dry . But what else could of been in it...for him to see this kinda results in I think he said 19 days? I just find this very odd? Now granted I'm new to this game and learning...but this throws a whole new wrench into the learning curve if you will..:agreed:

gh has a pronounced synergistic effect with AAS, And if the rate is gh along with AAS - you can quickly see the changes in the form, especially if people do sport for 10-20 years. I think everyone knows what to do his hand from 35 centimeters to 40 centimeters, it's difficult, but you can do it in 2-3 months. But that would make the arm 50 centimeters to 51 centimeters may require six months in a good professional ( I'm talking about a dry form, without increased body fat). That's why people who do sports for a long time can see the best separatio, depth muscle. Because they know how preparaty work on their body and see the changes.

I hope I said it in plain language) Because my knowledge of English does not allow me to express correctly many of my thoughts.


And about business - so far this is not our best idea:
1) Spend $ 1000 to test the drug
2) get a bad result and not expose it to the store
3) ?????
4) Profit.

While I do not know what should be in step 3)

[lipripper]

fucking crapshoot...

[rado]

I think that's a good way to run your business..yet..he clearly liked the results he seen in his core area...so whats going on? why such noticeable results in such a fast time..yet such a low score. I understand its pre mixed..shipping and all that..it will degrade quickly compared to normal vials of dry . But what else could of been in it...for him to see this kinda results in I think he said 19 days? I just find this very odd? Now granted I'm new to this game and learning...but this throws a whole new wrench into the learning curve if you will..:agreed:

This is where bouncer had mentioned the WHAT IF someone is tampering with chems to make the numb hands feeling, the lethargy, etc.....we really don't know until someone actually pays for the product to be tested and i would do it if I knew of such labs

[lipripper]

The initial level of IGF was also extremely low, perhaps due to concomitant medications, or for another reason. But we have 2 more people who do smt test, and we will be able to understand the reason for such indicators. And before that time - smt will not appear in our store. The risk of sending this gh is too high.

I think that's a good way to run your business..yet..he clearly liked the results he seen in his core area...so whats going on? why such noticeable results in such a fast time..yet such a low score. I understand its pre mixed..shipping and all that..it will degrade quickly compared to normal vials of dry . But what else could of been in it...for him to see this kinda results in I think he said 19 days? I just find this very odd? Now granted I'm new to this game and learning...but this throws a whole new wrench into the learning curve if you will..:agreed: